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Security Camera help please

Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:07 am
Posted by Texas ellessu
East Bank of Ward's Creek
Member since Dec 2007
513 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 10:07 am
Looking for recommendations. Need two ac powered cameras. 1 indoor and 1 exterior. Need to view on iPhone. Don't need storage. TIA
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 5/1/23 at 2:07 pm to
Just get a couple of wyze cams
Posted by tiger_nutz
Member since Feb 2017
752 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 11:28 am to
Ring
Posted by CPTDCKHD
Member since Sep 2019
1480 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 7:03 pm to
Will they capture a license plate number from 100’ away, in the dark, in real time? I’m looking too.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

Will they capture a license plate number from 100’ away, in the dark, in real time?
Posted by Minnesota Tiger
Member since Oct 2005
4414 posts
Posted on 5/2/23 at 8:06 pm to
I use Arlo
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1504 posts
Posted on 5/3/23 at 6:28 am to
To capture license plates you’ll need specific/specialized cameras and a recorder that handles capturing/reading/logging license plates…and that shite gets costly
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23852 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 7:45 am to
quote:

To capture license plates


I think your sarcasm detector is broken...
Posted by BabySam
FL
Member since Oct 2010
1504 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:05 am to
Hahahahah…looking back, you are correct…executive eyes failed me there! Lol
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16282 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 10:35 am to
If you have a home security system, I would check to see what options that have first. May even be able to add them to the monitoring system with no additional costs.

I recently picked up the Ring floodlight cameras (already had 2 doorbells) and am happy with the quality.

I know you said you don't need storage, but for a few hundred dollars you can get a system like Swann that would come with 4 cameras. Their phone app is pretty decent, and you would have the storage in case you decide down the road you want/need.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23852 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 5:46 pm to
So with regards to security cams and license plates, I've had a thought recently but I'm not smart/savvy enough to implement it as of yet. While I've never done it (I want to but don't have the time/budget for a new hobby), I know astrophotography uses ccd cameras to collect hundreds/thousands of images and then stacks them to achieve a more detailed image than a single frame. My thought is, why couldn't this be done for security cameras? Either in on-board or in rd software. The hardest part would be putting a boundary around the plate so the software would know what part of the image to stack....
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 5/4/23 at 8:20 pm to
In daylight a lot of cameras can capture plate numbers. Might take a little tuning of exposure to eliminate blurring, but aside from that it boils down to just having enough pixels on the plate (close enough for the camera's resolution and FoV). Then if you want automatic plate recognition and OCR, that's just software that can run on the server if the camera isn't running it.

Night is a completely different story. The problem is that typically in low light conditions a camera will take much longer exposures per frame to capture enough light, but this results in motion blur. You might attempt a solution like you suggest, just capture a lot of short exposure frames and then stack them, but the vehicle you're interested in is almost always moving. So now the software needs to identify and crop the plate, then transform because the angle will be different in every frame, as will the relative size of the plate resulting in varying numbers of pixels per frame. This is a very hard problem (though solvable of course), but the easier and more reliable solution is to just use a camera designed to capture at least one high quality frame of a license plate at night. No hard computations across numerous frames, just identify the plate and run OCR.

Big sensor, bright infrared, very short exposure, and image processing that blacks out most of the frame so that the plate isn't bright as the sun washing out the frame.
Posted by gmac8604
Green Bay, WI
Member since Jun 2012
1085 posts
Posted on 5/6/23 at 9:15 pm to
Just curious, why do they have to be AC? Will they be drawing power from the door chimes?
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