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Quickbooks Desktop - What happens if you don't renew the sub?

Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:00 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:00 am
It's coming up in August and is $550 for the year. This is for 1 company and 1 user. I originally got the desktop version to not have to treat it like SAAS, but it seems QB is hell bent on getting everyone online. My bookkeeper (and others who use the software) told me to avoid online like the plague b/c it sucks.

I don't use any of the features other than straight bookkeeping. I don't do online bank accounts, payroll, etc. I save the company file and create PDFs of the applicable reports for my CPA each year (I don't share the account with them virtually).

So if I don't renew, will they lock down the software? Or will they just eliminate the online features that I don't use (and security, updates, etc)?
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1507 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:30 am to
I never renew it. They don't do anything but harass you.
Posted by Gauxt
Prairieville
Member since Oct 2013
332 posts
Posted on 7/20/23 at 8:38 am to
I just renewed desktop and I'll be damned if I can figure out how to remove my credit card or cancel auto renew.
This will be the last renew.... I plan to make what I need with excel. Unless someone knows of another option
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 10:21 am to
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I never renew it. They don't do anything but harass you.

Do you have QB 2020 or prior? Apparently those will work, just without support. Newer versions allegedly will not allow any editing of the company file.
Posted by wheelr
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Posted on 7/20/23 at 1:25 pm to
Gnucash
Frappebooks

Search "open source accounting software"
Posted by ColdDuck
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Member since Sep 2006
2783 posts
Posted on 7/21/23 at 7:52 am to
Slowflow is correct. 2020 or earlier will run forever as long as you are not running payroll. Or until we are on Windows whatever and it breaks old software. I get harassed every day from them about my old version.
Posted by Russianblue
Member since Nov 2007
1123 posts
Posted on 7/23/23 at 7:16 am to
I would google your subject and add “Reddit” to the end of your search.

I am in the same boat and was able to get 2021 desktop for the old price but when it expires QB is, according to what I have read, completely locking down any features including manual import of bank transactions. they really went out of their way to take away and and all automated features.

I don’t have to address this again until next May but after being a loyal customer for 20 years and then have them raise the price by about 10x in a single year is absurd. it’s an outright declaration that they no longer desire customers under a certain size.

say you have a side hustle business that makes you an extra $20k per year. you gonna drop $500 on your accounting software? that’s ridiculous.

and it’s true they want to do away w Desktop software. cloud based is much more profitable. I am not sure what I am going to do tbh. I have a lot of time sunk into setting up qb to run my small biz and it’s going to be a nightmare moving to something else. i’ll never use the online version though. i’d just farm out the whole thing to an accountant at that point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/23/23 at 8:20 am to
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it’s an outright declaration that they no longer desire customers under a certain size.

They just want everyone on Quickbooks online paying that monthly fee in perpetuity. They want a SAAS model.

Sadly, for the time being, any software that is cheap now will get popular and then follow this model.

I need to talk with my bookkeeper. I don't use/need 90% of the options for QB but I don't know what other formats she uses. She told me to avoid online like the plague and it sucks terribly.

I could get a client/file management software with the accounting I need for $100-1500/year, which would (theoretically) help me out tremendously more than just accounting. Dropping $500/year for just QB seems inefficient.
Posted by TheOcean
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/25/23 at 3:59 pm to
Check out wave. Free and works well
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 7/26/23 at 11:28 am to
Thanks for suggesting Wave, will check it out.

IIRC, QuickBooks versions before 2020 block your ability to download bank transactions if you don't upgrade to the newest version.

A few years ago you could keep current with a new QuickBooks Pro paid-up license about every 3 years for $159.

Now it's $549 per year.

And there are no new features I'd want to use, just basic double-entry accounting software.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
1507 posts
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:21 am to
I used wave with a small business I owned. It was awesome.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 12:38 pm to
Bump, because starting 7/1/2024 Intuit is raising the annual fee for QuickBooks desktop to $649.

This is for what used to cost us $159 once every three years.

It pisses me off that QuickBooks hasn't added any new features that we actually use in more than 10 years.

Has anyone migrated their small-business accounting from QuickBooks to a more reasonably-priced product?

If so, how did it go? Any suggestions?
This post was edited on 5/29/24 at 7:24 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57809 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

It pisses me off that QuickBooks hasn't added any new features
It seems the only thing added is a constant barrage of ads for other intuit products and services. Online version is almost unusable. Constant wack-a-mole. It would eve o e thing if it was free. But it’s not. Why am i paying to be fed ads?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
428305 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 7:59 pm to
I'm about to start migration to QBO, for now.

They are pricing desktop insanely high to force migration to QBO.

I'm going to look at other options b/c my standard/operations accounting is easy. I can get a LPM program that handles my trust accounting (which is rare these days...I could do it on Excel if needed)
Posted by Joshjrn
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/28/24 at 9:08 pm to
I would be curious to hear your CPA’s complaints about QBO. It’s been a few years, but I was heavily involved in admin of a fairly large organization that moved from desktop to online because of price, and other than a self inflicted issue caused by our incompetent IT person, we didn’t have any issues with it. It’s not super powerful, but we didn’t need it to be, and it doesn’t sound like you do, either.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
428305 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 6:57 am to
quote:

I would be curious to hear your CPA’s complaints about QBO

Bookkeeper, not CPA. I think my CPA is relatively neutral about it.

quote:

It’s not super powerful, but we didn’t need it to be, and it doesn’t sound like you do, either.

I'm sure it would work for me. She's already told me to start the switch, so whatever issues she has dealt with aren't worth it.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27795 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:13 am to
Haha ah, misread. Yeah, ours whined too because things got slightly moved around and that was going to be the end of the world. Turned out to be fine
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 5/29/24 at 7:21 am to
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They are pricing desktop insanely high to force migration to QBO.
We issue purchase orders, and to get that feature in QB Online you need the Plus version that's $90 per month - ignoring that short-term teaser rate of $27.

QB inventory management features suck, BTW.

We've used a separate system to handle inventory from the beginning.
Posted by ColdDuck
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Member since Sep 2006
2783 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 7:43 am to
QBO is terrible with billing time and invoice creation. I am stuck with desktop and the crazy price until I sell my business I guess.
Posted by WB Davis
Member since May 2018
2327 posts
Posted on 5/30/24 at 10:54 am to
Pretty much anyone you'd hire to manage your books is comfortable with QuickBooks and not much else.

Running your business on QuickBooks is like being hooked on cigarettes: the product stinks, the price keeps going up, and you can't break the habit.

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