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re: Oled vs qled

Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:59 pm to
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 12:59 pm to
In a dark room OLED is a better choice without question. I hav a 65" LG C8 in my basement and the image is flawless.

That said you do need to do some research and set it up properly.
Posted by Broken Coyote
Seated. Facing forward
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 2:30 pm to
I have a 65 inch Samsung Qled and love it. I read through and didn’t see this mentioned. Samsung does not support Dolby Vision, opting instead to support HDR 10+. If that’s important to you, it’s something to consider. Paired with my Samsung Harmon Karden sound bar, with the Samsung rear speaker system, I am very pleased with the picture and sound quality.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40874 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:22 pm to
Older video, but still rings true.

YouTube HDTVTest OLED vs QLED 2019 edition

Actually he has a 2020 Version

YouTube HDTVTest OLED vs QLED 2020 edition
This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 3:26 pm
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31276 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Is the TCL 6 series still the best bang for buck? Cant get a 65" delivered for right at 1k.


Hisense is the same price and has better performance.
Posted by mchias1
Member since Dec 2009
809 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 4:33 pm to
I watch this guy for tv questions.

StopTheFOMO youtube

He has some recent videos on what tvs for budgets, uses, and viewing conditions.

He also explains all the latest tv tech plus new ones coming.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

Yea, I don't get the brightness thing. I don't like an overly bright picture. From my perspective bright = washed out and I much prefer dark more rich colors and deep dark blacks. The blacks on these ultra bright TVs look like washed out gray not black.
Translation: give me the OLED all day long.


You don't get the brightness thing because you don't understand it.

If a quality panel looks washed out then it is not calibrated correctly, some sets come from the factory better than others but every set can benefit from calibration either by the owner or a professional.

The reason one "wants" a panel capable of very high light output is to take advantage of HDR (High Dynamic Range) content. You can thing of dynamic range in terms of sound. With sound being reproduced with a high dynamic range the soft sound can be very soft and the loud sounds can be very loud. Video reproduction also has a dynamic range and HDR content allows the dark scenes to be dark and not washed out (blacks are really grey) and still allows very bright scenes to be very bright and even scenes with partial dark and very bright at the same time.

For best HDR reproduction you want a set capable of near 1000 nits. HDR10 supports 1000 nits peak brightness and HDR10+ supports 4000 nits but almost no sets reach that. Both support 10 bit color.

Note many sets displayed in big box stores look overly bright and washed out because they are set of the "demonstration" mode designed for them to look good in a high ambient light showroom. Most sets today have multiple basic settings including a demo mode but as long as you have a decently low ambient light room they will look best in a setting like cinema or movie if you don't bother to do a calibration. Most friend's and family's homes I go into have their TV setup way too bright and are maybe getting 70% of the quality they paid for without being properly calibrated.

In general, the best sets for high ambient light rooms are QLED sets from Samsung because they have the best reflection and glare reduction.


Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65852 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 5:35 pm to
Yeah, that extra brightness for HDR is vital. My only gripe with OLED technology is the brightness limitation.

quote:

LG CX vs Sony X950H

HDR Real Scene Peak Brightness
685 cd/m² LG
980 cd/m² Sony

HDR Peak 100% Window
146 cd/m²
694 cd/m²

HDR Sustained 100% Window
140 cd/m²
692 cd/m²

HDR Sustained 25% Window
433 cd/m²
974 cd/m²

HDR Sustained 50% Window
287 cd/m²
721 cd/m²

This post was edited on 11/30/20 at 5:39 pm
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3090 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:52 pm to
From what I’ve actually seen so far, the Sony and Samsung 8K QLED technology is better than OLED 4K. The 8K “engines” upscale your 1080p and 4K images to eye popping levels.

2021 models of 8K promise another big leap. We’re on the verge of yet another huge leap in video tech.

This is one area of entertainment which is literally in the eye of the beholder.

Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65852 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 7:54 pm to
Samsung has always had the best upscaling engine in the business, no doubt.

I've heard similar things on the 8K engine.

Samsung is making a ton of MiniLED sets next year, estimating 2-3 million in MiniLED sales.
Posted by MDB
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2019
3090 posts
Posted on 11/30/20 at 8:07 pm to
And with the advent of solid 8K tech will follow the 92- and 98-inch screens. 85 will dip to 75 levels of want and 75 to 65 levels of want. It’ll be a new arms race of sorts.

55-inch is almost “dead” already. People are either going smaller for space and price, or a lot, lot bigger.

It was not long ago that 65 was gigantic.
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13174 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:33 am to
These videos provide a good objective comparison of OLED vs QLED.
Bottom line: OLED has better overall image quality: black blacks not washed out like backlit technology, no unsightly edge bloom and motion blur like QLED but QLED is the obvious better choice for bright rooms due to its superior brightness with the back light and anti-glare technology.

For me, there's are reason theaters turn the lights down during a show; the superior contrast without the picture being blindingly bright makes for a more pleasing movie experience. We have light blocking curtains in our living room to simulate the theater experience.
As such, next time I'm in the market for a TV, I will look for a high quality OLED TV.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40874 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 10:46 am to
quote:

These videos provide a good objective comparison of OLED vs QLED.


Agreed this guy is one of the best in the business, his dry humor cracks me up.

quote:

As such, next time I'm in the market for a TV, I will look for a high quality OLED TV.


My plan as well
Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65852 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 4:22 pm to
I love my C9, just wish it was brighter. Only downside. Supposedly they've been working on alternate ways to get them brighter or at least close to LCD. Maybe we'll see that with the 21 models.
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 4:23 pm
Posted by tee3
Member since Nov 2020
1051 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 4:31 pm to
I'd recommend saving the money and getting a QLED, not a big enough difference once you get your calibration right to justify spending 500 to 1000$ more.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 12/1/20 at 6:05 pm to
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For me, there's are reason theaters turn the lights down during a show; the superior contrast without the picture being blindingly bright makes for a more pleasing movie experience.


More so because the average projectors theaters use cant get bright enough for a lit up room. Also because there's less distractions when you cant see everything around you.

Whats Dolby Cinema and IMAX's big claims? Bigger, brighter screens... And those projectors are a lot of $$$ which is why there are only a few of them.

And its not just about a bright screen or a dark screen, its about the contrast of brightness and darkness on screen at the same time. OLED is superior on contrast obviously, but QLEDs are improving
This post was edited on 12/1/20 at 6:08 pm
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