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Looks like the Government is coming after streaming
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:44 am
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Part of the Covid Relief bill was money to go after streaming services.
Hopefully, they will try and fail and enough are out of the Country to keep this going.
What frustrates me most is I pay for what I stream as I pay for cable.
I use streaming services to watch what I want when I want.
When I watch a show I like to start on season 1 episode 1 and watch that way. Rather than make sure I'm home Tuesday at 8:00.
Part of the Covid Relief bill was money to go after streaming services.
Hopefully, they will try and fail and enough are out of the Country to keep this going.
What frustrates me most is I pay for what I stream as I pay for cable.
I use streaming services to watch what I want when I want.
When I watch a show I like to start on season 1 episode 1 and watch that way. Rather than make sure I'm home Tuesday at 8:00.
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Posted on 12/31/20 at 9:47 am to bird35
Post some excerpts from the article. It's blocked for me at work
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:02 am to bluebarracuda
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Covid Relief Bill Still Includes Felony Streaming Act, But Twitch Streamers Are Probably Safe
Earlier this month, Republican senator Thom Tillis managed to graft an act that would turn streaming copyrighted material into a felony.
The text of the $2.3 trillion spending and relief package, which can now be viewed online, includes what Tillis deemed “The Protecting Lawful Streaming Act.” When it comes to illegal streaming for commercial profit, the bill stipulates that individuals who “provide to the public a digital transmission service” that is “primarily” focused on illegal streams will face up to ten years in prison, as well as a fine. This version of law seems to focus on services, rather than, say, individual Twitch streamers or YouTubers who might haplessly air a video clip they don’t own.
“As a general matter, we do not see the need for further criminal penalties for copyright infringement,” wrote Meredith Rose, senior policy counsel of public interest nonprofit Public Knowledge. “However, this bill is narrowly tailored and avoids criminalizing users, who may do nothing more than click on a link, or upload a file. It also does not criminalize streamers who may include unlicensed works as part of their streams.”
“I’d guess that this is intended to prevent businesses from running those streaming sites that just host and run ads against free unauthorized content, like live sports streams, new movies, etc,” video game, esports, and entertainment attorney David “UltraDavid” Graham said on Twitter. “I want copyright reigned in, not expanded, but it’s hard for me to be too mad about that.”
According to Variety, the Motion Picture Association and the Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment have previously gone after operators of sites that distribute copyrighted material, but now they’ll also be able to get the FBI and federal prosecutors involved. This may not directly be a loss for Twitch streamers, YouTubers, and other content creators, but it’s certainly a win for massive companies—one that could have a chilling effect on people’s ability to distribute works that companies don’t want them to distribute.
Other copyright-related elements of the bill remain controversial. The CASE act will establish a new court-like entity within the U.S. Copyright Office to resolve copyright disputes, which basically means that an unaccountable group of bureaucrats gets to make crucial copyright decisions. They’ll also be able to administer fines of up to $30,000. In a statement published to its website today, nonprofit advocacy group Fight for the Future called the act “atrocious.”
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Covid Relief Bill Still Includes Felony Streaming Act, But Twitch Streamers Are Probably Safe
Earlier this month, Republican senator Thom Tillis managed to graft an act that would turn streaming copyrighted material into a felony.
The text of the $2.3 trillion spending and relief package, which can now be viewed online, includes what Tillis deemed “The Protecting Lawful Streaming Act.” When it comes to illegal streaming for commercial profit, the bill stipulates that individuals who “provide to the public a digital transmission service” that is “primarily” focused on illegal streams will face up to ten years in prison, as well as a fine. This version of law seems to focus on services, rather than, say, individual Twitch streamers or YouTubers who might haplessly air a video clip they don’t own.
“As a general matter, we do not see the need for further criminal penalties for copyright infringement,” wrote Meredith Rose, senior policy counsel of public interest nonprofit Public Knowledge. “However, this bill is narrowly tailored and avoids criminalizing users, who may do nothing more than click on a link, or upload a file. It also does not criminalize streamers who may include unlicensed works as part of their streams.”
“I’d guess that this is intended to prevent businesses from running those streaming sites that just host and run ads against free unauthorized content, like live sports streams, new movies, etc,” video game, esports, and entertainment attorney David “UltraDavid” Graham said on Twitter. “I want copyright reigned in, not expanded, but it’s hard for me to be too mad about that.”
According to Variety, the Motion Picture Association and the Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment have previously gone after operators of sites that distribute copyrighted material, but now they’ll also be able to get the FBI and federal prosecutors involved. This may not directly be a loss for Twitch streamers, YouTubers, and other content creators, but it’s certainly a win for massive companies—one that could have a chilling effect on people’s ability to distribute works that companies don’t want them to distribute.
Other copyright-related elements of the bill remain controversial. The CASE act will establish a new court-like entity within the U.S. Copyright Office to resolve copyright disputes, which basically means that an unaccountable group of bureaucrats gets to make crucial copyright decisions. They’ll also be able to administer fines of up to $30,000. In a statement published to its website today, nonprofit advocacy group Fight for the Future called the act “atrocious.”
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:15 am to bird35
Sounds like a bullshite kangaroo court in the copyright office that will have no appeals
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:25 am to bird35
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What frustrates me most is I pay for what I stream as I pay for cable.
If you are using your cable provider login to access your streaming services then you are doing nothing illegal and have nothing to worry about.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:28 am to bird35
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According to Variety, the Motion Picture Association and the Alliance for Creativity and Entertainment have previously gone after operators of sites that distribute copyrighted material, but now they’ll also be able to get the FBI and federal prosecutors involved.
So ya'll mad because ya'll won't be able to dance to copyrighted tunes on your shitty Tik Tok videos anymore????
Maybe you can do something useful and write your own music to dance to....or better yet get in touch with the artists production company and license the music you want to use in your video.
ETA I too think this would be better if it could be targeted to people that are profitting from their videos/streams however I'm not sure how that could be done effectively....how in the hell do you know that Ryan's fricking Toy Review has made $13 million? You don't and I know for a fact (my daughter watches it) that in the beginning of that stream he was using copyrighted unlicensed music while he was making millions unboxing toys.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:31 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:45 am to LSU316
I am using a APK to stream because my cable company requires me to load each channels streaming service separately.
But I get everything with my APK.
But I get everything with my APK.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:53 am to bird35
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I am using a APK to stream because my cable company requires me to load each channels streaming service separately.
But I get everything with my APK.
I'm guessing that is who they are going to go after harder with the FBI and the DOJ....I mean look they are illegally streaming copyrighted material. From what I'm reading they probably won't prosecute anyone, but they will shut the servers down.
ETA I'll be the first to admit that I used to use APK to stream everything as well....but I got tired of the pissing matches between the different developers and support groups and now everything I stream is on Hulu, Netflix, Prime Video, Disney +, etc.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 10:55 am
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:15 pm to bird35
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called the act “atrocious.”
An understatement. This is what the government is worried about instead of actual problems.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:20 pm to bird35
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But I get everything with my APK.
I get 6 months of flawless IPTV for $70 and a Plex server for $5 a month. I don't even bother running my own server now. Good luck competing with that. And good luck shutting it down internationally. Interpol has done some big raids, but operators keep opening shop.
A VPN might become mandatory at some point.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:32 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Do IPTV have on demand movies and shows or just live?
Flr instance can I stream all the episodes of The Middle?
Flr instance can I stream all the episodes of The Middle?
Posted on 12/31/20 at 12:39 pm to bird35
Some do with their apps. I never found one that was worth it though. I get my on demand through plex which is run by the same IPTV people.
By worth it I mean the APKs are buggy and a PITA. Using TiviMate and Plex are much neater and better solutions.
By worth it I mean the APKs are buggy and a PITA. Using TiviMate and Plex are much neater and better solutions.
This post was edited on 12/31/20 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 12/31/20 at 3:58 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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internationally. Interpol has done some big raids, but operators keep opening shop.
If the Feds and the DOJ get serious well it could get shut down....I don't think this is going to do that as they basically said they wouldn't be prosecuting individuals.
They always said they couldn't stop Napster/Kazaa/P2P music sharing either.....but yea he gone.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 4:00 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I get my on demand through plex which is run by the same IPTV people.
This will probably be the most difficult to curtail simply in the nature of how it works and is setup.
If I was going to hang my hat on an IPTV service again this is how I would setup this go round.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 7:44 pm to LSU316
The law may already be behind the curve, most newer sites contain no actual streaming services but allow you to connect through Debrid or to stream from a torrent site that contains the data rather than download anything.
Posted on 12/31/20 at 10:40 pm to bird35
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Republican senator Thom Tillis managed to graft an act that would turn streaming copyrighted material into a felony.
Good grief.
Posted on 1/1/21 at 3:05 am to LSU316
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They always said they couldn't stop Napster/Kazaa/P2P music sharing either.....but yea he gone.
They didn't stop it though, how people do it changed.
The music industry finally waking up and realizing they had a service issue helped lessen it more than anything. You can use one service and have mostly everything. TV and movies is going away from that as much as possible, which is dumb because people will realize pirating is easier and cheaper.
Posted on 1/1/21 at 7:01 am to EarlyCuyler3
Which plex server do you use?
Posted on 1/1/21 at 10:40 am to LSU316
quote:I jumped on the streaming music bandwagon and went "legit" for awhile until Google showed their arse and took away a product that worked fine for 10 years.
They always said they couldn't stop Napster/Kazaa/P2P music sharing either.....but yea he gone.
Now I'm back running my own music streaming solution because that fits my needs and works the way I want.
Great job Google. Go frick yourself. Fool me once..
This post was edited on 1/1/21 at 10:44 am
Posted on 1/1/21 at 12:17 pm to bird35
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What frustrates me most is I pay for what I stream as I pay for cable.
Then this doesn’t apply to you.
This applies to illegal streaming that breaks copyright laws, like free streams of NFL, NBA, etc
I hope Buffstreams survives this
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