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Looking to get an 8K TV
Posted on 1/24/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 1/24/22 at 7:43 pm
Samsung QN 900a
Think I'm going to go with this one, anyone have this TV and can give some feedback. I do not want an Oled it's going in a room that sees a lot of light and from my experience Samsung are just brighter. Thanks for any input
Think I'm going to go with this one, anyone have this TV and can give some feedback. I do not want an Oled it's going in a room that sees a lot of light and from my experience Samsung are just brighter. Thanks for any input
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Posted on 1/24/22 at 7:58 pm to burke985
Just out of curiosity, what's your use case for this? What 8k content do you have that you can use this display for?
Posted on 1/24/22 at 8:20 pm to efrad
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Just out of curiosity, what's your use case for this? What 8k content do you have that you can use this display for?
Wanna have full use of the Series X and do a little future proofing. I bought a 75" Q80R almost 2 years ago (I think) and I didn't realize it didn't have a HDMI 2.1 port guess I didn't do enough homework on the set was too blown away by the picture in the store lol.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 8:48 pm to burke985
There is so little 8k content right now it seems like a waste.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:18 pm to burke985
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Wanna have full use of the Series X and do a little future proofing.
The Series X will never be able to actually push 8k in games that you'll actually care about. Don't let the marketing fool you.
When you say you want to do a little future proofing, how far in the future are we talking? Because unless you're looking to get a decade out of this TV, 8k just doesn't make a ton of sense. I would buy a really nice 4k TV now, and if/when 8k becomes mainstream, upgrade then. Because by time 8k does become mainstream, I imagine a whole host of tangential technologies being offered in TVs will be a hell of a lot better then than they are now.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:29 pm to burke985
Be careful with future proofing. A lot of 4k early adopters were left with incompatible TVs when standards changed.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:36 pm to Joshjrn
I have to agree with this. As far as I know, the Series X doesn't actually have 8K enabled yet, requiring a software update? And the GPU isn't going to be powerful enough to push 8K games. I have an RTX 3080Ti card in my computer that blows away the Series X GPU and I still prefer to play in 1440p over 4K because of performance. 8K is four times the pixels of 4K, there's no way the Series X will display any decent looking games in full 8K. At the most, its 8K capabilities will be for the menus and 8K video content (of which there is approximately zero right now).
You'd be way better off spending half that money on a really nice 4K TV instead. And then a few years down the line, spending the other half on an 8K TV when you actually have 8K content to watch and they're not as ridiculously priced.
You'd be way better off spending half that money on a really nice 4K TV instead. And then a few years down the line, spending the other half on an 8K TV when you actually have 8K content to watch and they're not as ridiculously priced.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:44 pm to efrad
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You'd be way better off spending half that money on a really nice 4K TV instead. And then a few years down the line, spending the other half on an 8K TV when you actually have 8K content to watch and they're not as ridiculously priced
shite I paid 3k for my Q80r, another issue I am having is my current TV is too big for a piece of furniture that the mrs decided to use again for the living room. So I need to downsize to a 65" but I didn't want to downsize without upgrading.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 9:47 pm to burke985
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Wanna have full use of the Series X
Then I would look for a TV that supports Dolby vision.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 10:13 pm to burke985
I wouldn’t get an 8k tv for future proofing, because by the time 8k content is widely available, you’ll be in the market for a new tv.
However, I’ve seen the two Samsung 8k TVs and they do a damn good job at upscaling content. I don’t necessarily think these 8k TVs are a good value, but if money were no object, I’d strongly consider one.
However, I’ve seen the two Samsung 8k TVs and they do a damn good job at upscaling content. I don’t necessarily think these 8k TVs are a good value, but if money were no object, I’d strongly consider one.
Posted on 1/24/22 at 11:10 pm to 632627
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However, I’ve seen the two Samsung 8k TVs and they do a damn good job at upscaling content. I don’t necessarily think these 8k TVs are a good value, but if money were no object, I’d strongly consider one
Yeah I saw the QN800a model in Best Buy today which is the mid tier and was pretty astonished at how much better it looked than my current 4k tv which I think looks awesome.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 3:23 am to burke985
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anyone have this TV and can give some feedback.
I've had the QN900A in the 85" flavor for almost a year now (April 2021). The 8K resolution with the mini-LED tech is something to behold. The upsampling is also really really good when watching something in native 4k or even standard HD. I watch YouTube TV through an Apple TV 4k and pretty much all programing including sports looks great. Those few games that are broadcast in native 4k look amazing. Although, something to be aware of, anything in SD will look like crap since the upscaling processer is trying to make up >80% of the pixels.
I have this TV to complement my Dobly Atmos setup with GoldenEar speakers in 5.2.4 format. Needless to say, there is very little reason for me to visit a movie theatre. Hand down one of the brightest TVs when watching 4k HDR blu-rays. The super bright HDR highlights in movies such as the latest Mad Max or Alita: Battle Angel will jump out and amaze you. No OLED can come close to those kind of eye-searing nits. However, it doesn't have the infinite contrast and inky blacks around bright edges that OLED can provide, but the mini-LED tech with 2000+ diming zones allows it to get really close.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 4:03 am to Joshjrn
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Wanna have full use of the Series X and do a little future proofing.
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The Series X will never be able to actually push 8k in games that you'll actually care about
He needs HDMI 2.1 not for 8k but for VRR, ALLM, and 4k 120hz that the XBox Series X can do. Just be aware that most 2021 TVs only have 1 HDMI 2.1 port if any with the rest being HDMI 2.0. The exceptions being OLED TVs from LG and Samsung TVs with the One Connect Box, I also believe the flagship Sony Master Series TVs may have only 2 HDMI 2.1 ports. The One Connect Box for the QN900A has all 4 HDMI ports being 2.1 spec. It would suck just having 1 HDMI 2.1 port since it will also likely be the eARC port as well which would be used by a sound bar or HT receiver.
2021 was a rough year for HDMI 2.1 since not all TVs had it and most only gave you 1 port unless you bought flagship 8K TVs or LG OLEDs. Not to mention HT Receivers having multiple problems with bugs in their HDMI 2.1 controllers. I have a 2021 model Denon that they finally fixed the HDMI 2.1 issue by sending me a separate device about the size of a couple of decks of cards to fit in between the device and the receiver.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 4:12 am to burke985
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So I need to downsize to a 65" but I didn't want to downsize without upgrading.
IMO, I don't think 65" at 8k resolution is even worth it. The pixel density is so tiny at the 65" size that you would have to sit really close to the TV (less than 6-8 ft) for your own eyes to be able to resolve the difference between 4k and 8k resolution. Honestly, anything less than around 80" is worthless at 8k resolution when viewing from normal distances of 10-12+ ft.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 4:24 am to Brisketeer
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Be careful with future proofing. A lot of 4k early adopters were left with incompatible TVs when standards changed.
Former owner of a $6,000 65" 1080p RPTV that basically became a huge piece of junk when all HD content went to HDMI with HDCP copy protection. We all appreciate early adopters but they almost always get screwed in the AV world long term.
Buy the set you can use all of now and upgrade when the horizon is more clear. Unless you just have to have the newest greatest specs. Plus putting a uber high-end set in a high ambient light area is never the best idea.
I should also add I see very few high-end sets that have been calibrated correctly, 20% are in showroom "torch mode".
Posted on 1/25/22 at 6:08 am to burke985
Will those 720p games on ABC, Fox and ESPN and 1080i games on NBC and CBS upscale well?
Posted on 1/25/22 at 10:55 am to burke985
The human eye can barely distinguish resolutions that high.
For 4K resolution, you'd have to sit less than 4.2 ft away from your 65in TV or 3.6 ft away from a 55in to see all of the detail in 4K.
For anything higher than 4K, you'd have to sit less than 3 feet away.
8k resolution is only useful for virtual reality headsets.
For 4K resolution, you'd have to sit less than 4.2 ft away from your 65in TV or 3.6 ft away from a 55in to see all of the detail in 4K.
For anything higher than 4K, you'd have to sit less than 3 feet away.
8k resolution is only useful for virtual reality headsets.
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:32 am to burke985
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Yeah I saw the QN800a model in Best Buy today
Never a good idea to judge a TV's picture in store
ETA: and I agree with the others that 8k on a 65" TV is not worth the high cost
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 11:34 am
Posted on 1/25/22 at 11:53 am to burke985
I would get a 75" Samsung 4k instead
Posted on 1/25/22 at 12:29 pm to jg8623
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Never a good idea to judge a TV's picture in store
Yeah, they are never set right anyway. The 800A is 600 cheaper and it looked great also. From what I'm reading main difference is gsync and local dimming is supposed to be better on the 900a. Xbox don't support gsync so that don't matter, I can also get it if I use wife's perks at work discount for about 2500.00 for the 65" 800a, and 2900.00 for the 900a.
This post was edited on 1/25/22 at 12:30 pm
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