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re: IT Certification
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:16 am to Pechon
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:16 am to Pechon
Thoughts on College degrees?
I've worked IT (small business, one man IT dept stuff) for 10 years. Brought my kid before a CIO in a large organization for career path advice.
The CIO basically told him, "While certs might be useful" he wants a guy with a degree in EE or CS. "Most appliances will be driven via software defined networking eliminating"
I thought it was an interesting take
I've worked IT (small business, one man IT dept stuff) for 10 years. Brought my kid before a CIO in a large organization for career path advice.
The CIO basically told him, "While certs might be useful" he wants a guy with a degree in EE or CS. "Most appliances will be driven via software defined networking eliminating"
I thought it was an interesting take
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Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:30 am to Tigeralum2008
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Thoughts on College degrees?
Like I said, I don't have one and have never needed one...Does it put a ceiling above me, maybe ? But I doubt I will hit it as comfortable as I am now...
I think if you're going to sit in a bubble and maintain a network all day in front of people they want to know you have a degree..If you want to sit in a cold dark room and tell people what issues you found in their network, you need experience and some sort of proof that you at least use your knowledge practically
I would hire/recommend most of the people who can show some sort of understanding over someone that spent four years to simply be taught that it works a certain way
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:46 am to GrammarKnotsi
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Honestly, I think the ones here who don't agree with my CompTIA timeline have a degree in the field...
I only have an associates, but the CompTIA certs provide very little compared to Cisco certs, especially for advancements
Posted on 7/17/19 at 9:50 am to SG_Geaux
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We usually start off Tier 1s in the $45k range.
You must be the extreme outlier and probably only company in town I haven't talked to then.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:10 am to bluebarracuda
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I only have an associates, but the CompTIA certs provide very little compared to Cisco certs, especially for advancements
It also makes a difference who is above you..If your whole department is a bunch of degreed Cisco guys, they'll want that..If they are simply running a business and supplying a demand, they want knowledge and experience
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:31 am to Tigeralum2008
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Thoughts on College degrees?
Degree in Marketing and Business Management here.
My only Cert is A+
Worked my way from Help Desk to Networking/Datacenter to being the Service Desk Manager for a Fortune 1000
This post was edited on 7/17/19 at 10:34 am
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:33 am to Brosef Stalin
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You must be the extreme outlier and probably only company in town I haven't talked to then.
Admittedly, the staffing company isn't sending me total noobs either. They typically send me people with at least 3-4 years of experience.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:39 am to SG_Geaux
I don't consider that entry level. When I think of entry level, I'm thinking straight out of college with little to no experience. I see all these jobs listed as entry level but they want a degree, A+ and maybe Net+, and 3-5 years experience. I can understand a degree and certification but that much experience sounds intermediate level to me.
Posted on 7/17/19 at 10:49 am to Brosef Stalin
Yeah I agree with you. That's a fair assessment.
3-5 years experience is not entry level IMO
3-5 years experience is not entry level IMO
Posted on 7/17/19 at 1:34 pm to Brosef Stalin
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I see all these jobs listed as entry level but they want a degree, A+ and maybe Net+, and 3-5 years experience.
The old classic... how does one get experience if experience is required for an entry level role... This isn't isolated to the IT space honestly. It's what bright eyed, bushy tailed recent grads run into after walking away with their shiny college degree, myself included.
Gotta bust down a lot of doors to find the right one often times. The first one is almost always the hardest unless you try and make an untenable jump at some point in your career.
I would say anything listing ~5 years of experience is definitely not an "entry level" job, unless they're not hyper specific on what that experience is. For example, some places just want someone with 3-5 years of experience in the workplace, as they don't want someone fresh out of college.. they want someone with a little more worldly knowledge...
Posted on 7/17/19 at 2:44 pm to Tigeralum2008
degrees not so much worth, absolutely not requirement.
I'd say IT related work if you're skilled and good at what you do. You can find a job worth your labor rates..easily, a degree is pretty meaningless.
I have one, and it helped me land a job/set me on career path. That's it.
I'd say IT related work if you're skilled and good at what you do. You can find a job worth your labor rates..easily, a degree is pretty meaningless.
I have one, and it helped me land a job/set me on career path. That's it.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 6:07 am to Tigeralum2008
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a degree in EE
This never made since to me.
If you are designing circuitry then sure. But I work with plenty of EEs that can barely operate a PC.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 7:44 am to SG_Geaux
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A+, Network+, and Security+ give you a great foundation along with the ITIL Foundation Cert.
Best place/s to look at getting these certifications? Where would someone with zero knowledge begin?
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:47 am to SlimCharles140
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Best place/s to look at getting these certifications?
CompTIA website..you literally just go take a test ..$350 to take it twice within a year...Take it once to see what its about, study, take again if needed
Also, watch some Professor Messor (sp?) videos
Posted on 7/18/19 at 8:55 am to GrammarKnotsi
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CompTIA website..you literally just go take a test ..$350 to take it twice within a year...Take it once to see what its about, study, take again if needed
Also, watch some Professor Messor (sp?) videos
Yep. Professor Messer on Youtube, full video series for all three base CompTIA exams. LINK
Otherwise, look into a subscription to Safari Books Online. They have textbook and video courses on every certification under the sun.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 9:13 am to fibonaccisquared
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The old classic... how does one get experience if experience is required for an entry level role... This isn't isolated to the IT space honestly. It's what bright eyed, bushy tailed recent grads run into after walking away with their shiny college degree, myself included.
Gotta bust down a lot of doors to find the right one often times. The first one is almost always the hardest unless you try and make an untenable jump at some point in your career.
Man you just nailed my experience getting a foot in the door. Graduated BBA-CIS in May of 2017. Been at my company for 10+ years and made quite a bit more than a helpdesk role. Going backwards wasn’t an option for me. Applied for a couple of Sys Admin and Security Analyst I positions and the interviews felt like courtesy interviews due to the lack of experience and knowledge candidly speaking. Finally, a year ago I started job shadowing a couple of days a week with our Network Architect hoping that would yield some sort of offer and did that for about 9 or 10 months. Hiring freeze and other excuses didn’t yield a job despite the NA pushing heavily to make a position for me. Finally a job in dev came open and I have a good working relationship with the guys in the dept and they got me in.
My biggest suggestion to anyone considering this career path is get a solid network of people going and show interest any way you can. It took me a LONG time working with a guy that was nice enough to give me the time of day training. And I still ended up in a different direction than that was going. Kinda a bizarre path to get where I’m at now but I have no regrets other than I wish I would have been seeking the OTJ training long before I was graduated. Live and learn.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 9:15 am to jcole4lsu
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Yep. Professor Messer on Youtube, full video series for all three base CompTIA exams. LINK
Otherwise, look into a subscription to Safari Books Online. They have textbook and video courses on every certification under the sun.
I paid $10 for a Udemy course subscription. Forget the guys name but it's the network + course. He did an excellent job of starting at square 1 and building on it.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 3:46 pm to WhiskeyThrottle
Getting more hands on experience is the biggest issue for me. There's plenty of free videos online and I can buy books and practice tests but that doesn't replace actually doing things. Hard to find someone willing to train.
Posted on 7/18/19 at 3:50 pm to Geauxtiger27
Experience.. been in IT for over 10yrs and have zero certifications.. worked a couple years out of college at a bank helping in IT dept... got a job at hospital as network administrator, worked there 8 years. Had a lil boy 2 yrs ago and didnt wana drive an hr to work, so i took a job as IT Coordinator at a school district 15mins from home. 60k yr.. cake schedule with more time off than i can ever need.. bottom line, certifications useless, get experience
This post was edited on 7/18/19 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 7/18/19 at 4:03 pm to oleyeller
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bottom line, certifications useless, get experience
except in any competitive market you need at least the baseline certs to have a chance to get that experience
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