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re: I Hate Windows 8... When Does Windows 9 Release?
Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:26 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:26 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I'm not sure what he's trying to argue with me about. I actually agreed that it was more efficient. But to say that it's more stable than 7 is just wrong. And I'm looking at this from a "right now" standpoint. 7 wasn't very stable to start with either. And security is only as good as a company's or person's ability to keep up with patches. 8 is newer and therefore has had less vulnerabilities mainly due to the lesser amount of time hackers have had with it.
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:27 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I hate my surface 3 because of the OS. I should've stayed with the iPad
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:02 pm to ell_13
Yeah the stability comment was odd, though I can see Win 8 having the perception of higher stability if it's moving toward an OSX experience of limiting what you can change under the hood (or at least making it more difficult to frick up). More sandboxing I'm sure, and I know Windows 8 already comes with MSE/Defender and has a few extra features/filters that prevent rootkits and other exploits. I am all for anything that unintrusively protects average users from themselves and still allows advanced users to do whatever they want. Sounds like Windows 8 does exactly that, and I can see the reasons for advocating that Joe User not freak out at the interface and retreat to Windows 7 on their new laptop.
For me personally, I've yet to find a reason to make the switch, other than to get familiar with the OS so I can help others.
For me personally, I've yet to find a reason to make the switch, other than to get familiar with the OS so I can help others.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:04 pm to ILikeLSUToo
We're skipping it. Large companies tend to do what you mentioned. we went from XP to 7. There are a couple Vistas here and there, but those are on closed networks and supported by those teams internally.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:05 pm to SirSaintly
i have been fricking around with windows 8 for about a month and it's aight. some things are faster. some things are not (esp using multiple folders)
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:10 pm to Hopeful Doc
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Charms bar + search. The search function is much better than on previous windows versions.
Right-clicking over the start menu brings up almost all the useful utilities without digging for them at all.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:37 pm to SirSaintly
Literally the only difference is no start menu. Google startisback and voila, windows 7 all over again!
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:42 pm to ell_13
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Large companies tend to do what you mentioned. we went from XP to 7.
my wife's company is just now switching from XP to 7 and I think bringing their servers to 2008
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:40 pm to jeff5891
No ill be thrilled if it looks like that again
Posted on 8/3/14 at 10:45 pm to TigerMyth36
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8 is much more stable than 7.
I have not found it to be.
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8 has better security than 7.
You mean because MSSE is built-in as Defender?
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8 actually is great if you can get over the difficulty of clicking 1 time to get to the desktop.
I have 8 on my laptop and I find it usable, but let's not downplay how annoying the Metro can be. Yes it's easy enough to get a utility to disable it and give you start menu, but it's the principal of the matter. In Win8 beta all you had to do was edit a reg key to get the start menu. At final release, it was completely removed. They know people want it, yet they take it away anyway.
I hate the idea of forcing people to use something a certain way just because they think it's better.
Windows needs a core OS and a choice of GUIs like linux does. But instead of giving people choices, they just force their opinions on everyone.
Again, 8 works fine, but in reality, frick Microsoft.
Not as hard as Apple, but frick them.
Posted on 8/3/14 at 11:54 pm to Casty McBoozer
I like Windows 8, but Microsoft really fricked up. They should have known the simpletons would freak out when they didn't see a desktop on boot.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 12:48 am to BobRoss
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They should have known the simpletons would freak out when they didn't see a desktop on boot.
I wouldn't consider myself a simpleton, and my initial reaction to the Metro interface was utter disgust and crippling fear. Obviously, once those emotions passed and I realized you can make it look pretty much the same as 7 (even more so than when it was first released), all was well. I just didn't see any reason to switch. I do like its efficiency and integrated features, but they just don't apply to me specifically. I have installed several Windows 7 enhancements for Windows Explorer, task management, search, desktop management, etc. Obviously, this is not at all ideal for a low-mid range PC, just not an issue for me.
I am curious how well Windows 8's built-in search works for thousands of documents -- advanced search options, searching contents vs. title, date, etc. In that regard, XP was superior.
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You mean because MSSE is built-in as Defender?
I looked a little further into that, and there are a few extras that help protect the user from himself. There is some sandboxing, but only for the Windows App store programs to run watered-down RT apps.
There's apparently a new version of smart screen filter that scans every EXE you download (regardless of browser used) and compares its signature against Microsoft's list of known good and bad applications. That would just aggravate the shite out of me and I'd turn it off immediately.
Then there's secureboot, which blocks rootkits from taking over boot order, and some improvements in preventing and mitigating memory exploits. Undoubtedly there are more enhancements that are not publicly known. All of this is good news for the average user and brings the Windows experience closer to the safe, cozy, "it just works" environment offered by OSX, with the benefit of power users being able to cut the umbilical cord, at their peril.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 2:42 am to SirSaintly
If you don't like 8, 9 will make you cry.
Face it, Windows will continue to try to make everything you do simpler so idiots will like it.
Face it, Windows will continue to try to make everything you do simpler so idiots will like it.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 5:43 am to SirSaintly
The biggest problem I have is I can't get mine to start in safe mode. Right now I can't even get it to boot. So I am posting on a fifteen year old acer while the year and a half year old HP serves as a paperweight.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 6:59 am to TigerMyth36
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But I understand how difficult that 1 click can be.
For us IT types, no, not so much. Try selling that one click and the entire OS behaving differently to an entire user base that is used to the traditional start menu though. My users went batshit just went I deployed Office 2010.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:19 am to SirSaintly
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I Hate Windows 8
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non touch screen
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:36 am to SirSaintly
Get a Mac.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 9:44 am to drizztiger
quote:you don't have to install any secondary software to avoid this. go to the desktop, right click on the taskbar, click properties. go to the Navigation tab. adjust the settings under Start Screen as needed. My 8.1 machines boots directly to the desktop and I don't have to see the tiles at al. All of this is built into 8.1.
When I got my Asus ROG laptop recently, this was my first install.
I don't even go to the start screen.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:10 am to TigerGman
I love windows 8. I don't get the hate.
I have 8.1, and the start menu. I've never been a person that relied solely on the mouse. I use the keyboard and all the shortcuts on it to get what I need.
Need windows explorer open? windows key + E. need multiple windows open? keep pressing it. With windows 7 came the wonderful feature of snapping windows. Two explorer windows open? alt tab to one, hit windows + left arrow, and it snaps to left, alt tab to other window, windows + right arrow. Now I have two windows side by side.
yeah, you can do this in 7, but it's just as easy in 8. easier searches. Need to find a program? tap the windows key on the keyboard and start typing. I'm not on the tile screen much, but I do have shortcuts on there for the things I use the most. so again, tapping the windows key gets me there quick, and then just double click on what I need.
I have 8.1, and the start menu. I've never been a person that relied solely on the mouse. I use the keyboard and all the shortcuts on it to get what I need.
Need windows explorer open? windows key + E. need multiple windows open? keep pressing it. With windows 7 came the wonderful feature of snapping windows. Two explorer windows open? alt tab to one, hit windows + left arrow, and it snaps to left, alt tab to other window, windows + right arrow. Now I have two windows side by side.
yeah, you can do this in 7, but it's just as easy in 8. easier searches. Need to find a program? tap the windows key on the keyboard and start typing. I'm not on the tile screen much, but I do have shortcuts on there for the things I use the most. so again, tapping the windows key gets me there quick, and then just double click on what I need.
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:27 am to SirSaintly
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Love the laptop but HATE HATE HATE windows 8.1.
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My only other option is to find what I want with Win 7 installed, but considering Windows will probably cease supporting Win 7, I'm not too keen on that idea.
Windows 8 is better than Windows 7.
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I am curious how well Windows 8's built-in search works for thousands of documents -- advanced search options, searching contents vs. title, date, etc. In that regard, XP was superior.
It works well on my full 2 TB hard drive.
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 11:29 am
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