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Home networking upgrades (what did you learn when you did yours?)
Posted on 10/30/26 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 10/30/26 at 4:56 pm
I'm getting ready next week to turn my home network upside down. I've always just had Xfinity 1gb going into a 10-year-old Asus wireless router sitting in a corner on the main level. For reference, the house is about 3600ft2 evenly divided between three floors (basement, main, and 2nd where bedrooms are).
About a month ago I replaced the router with an Ubiquiti UDR7 and it's been great. I replaced a few switches in the basement as well with Ubiquiti product and am loving the ecosystem.
Next week I'm going to move the UDR7 to the basement and put U7 Mesh units in, one on the main level and one on the second level. They will each have a MoCA 2.5 backhaul.
I need to reroute the cable line coming into the house from the main floor to the basement and map out all of the coax lines from where they terminate in the basement to whatever rooms they go to so it's not quick, just plug it in project.
For anyone on here who has done a major home network change like this, particularly with MoCA or the Ubiquiti ecosystem. What lessons did you learn along the way? Anything you regret or wish that you had done?
This is kind of step 1 in a total home renovation. replacing all flooring and paint on the main level, gutting the basement and putting in a finished office, workout room, bar, and theater room, etc. All in the next 6 months or so.
About a month ago I replaced the router with an Ubiquiti UDR7 and it's been great. I replaced a few switches in the basement as well with Ubiquiti product and am loving the ecosystem.
Next week I'm going to move the UDR7 to the basement and put U7 Mesh units in, one on the main level and one on the second level. They will each have a MoCA 2.5 backhaul.
I need to reroute the cable line coming into the house from the main floor to the basement and map out all of the coax lines from where they terminate in the basement to whatever rooms they go to so it's not quick, just plug it in project.
For anyone on here who has done a major home network change like this, particularly with MoCA or the Ubiquiti ecosystem. What lessons did you learn along the way? Anything you regret or wish that you had done?
This is kind of step 1 in a total home renovation. replacing all flooring and paint on the main level, gutting the basement and putting in a finished office, workout room, bar, and theater room, etc. All in the next 6 months or so.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 8:58 pm to TigerFanatic99
Why not just fish Ethernet along where the cable is currently located? I know the Coax is probably stapled to the framing. I would be concerned about the degradation introduced to Coax via splitters, etc. While real world speeds of 500MB/s you'd get with Coax is sufficient to do just about anything, it seems like an unnecessary complication since you're doing so much work anyway.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:30 pm to LemmyLives
The way the house was built and remodeled over the years will make fishing ethernet through the walls a horrible pain in the arse. I have MoCA 2.5 adapters and they are rated for 2.5gb/s, and regularly achieve 2.1G-2.3G in real world tests. The coax is in good condition. Isolated and the only lines connected to the single MoCA splitter will be the two used to get to the main level and second floor, and the feed from the gateway.
Out of all of it the MoCA is one of my lesser concerns.
Out of all of it the MoCA is one of my lesser concerns.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:45 pm to TigerFanatic99
Fishing being a horrible pain in the arse is part of the expectation 
I hate fish tape.
How are you mapping all the Coax lines? Are you using Visio or app.diagrams.net or other? I'm about to buy a new house and pull wire, and want to make sure I'm not living in 2015 because that's all I know.
Are you sticking a rack or shelf in the basement for your NAS?
I hate fish tape. How are you mapping all the Coax lines? Are you using Visio or app.diagrams.net or other? I'm about to buy a new house and pull wire, and want to make sure I'm not living in 2015 because that's all I know.
Are you sticking a rack or shelf in the basement for your NAS?
Posted on 10/30/26 at 9:59 pm to LemmyLives
When I said mapping the coax network, I meant identifying just which wire in the basement goes to which room/outlet in the house so I k ow which ones to put the MoCA2.5 adapters on. I bought a neat tool from Klein for that.
That being said, I used the apps.diagrams.net site to do all the layouts and such for the basement layout.
No NAS at the moment, but I do plan on expanding the network in the future. I'll put a rack in the basement that right now will just have a small 8 port POE switch and the UDR7 sitting on it. In the future I'll replace that switch with a larger 24 or 48 port rack mount switch, put a rack mount NAS in it, etc. The basement alone will need 8 network drops, and there are two places on the main level I think I can actually fish wire to for TVs. Since the basement is being gutted to the concrete and blocks it'll be easy enough to run wire. I'm going to wire everything I can. 4 TVs, 2 PCs, Xbox, ps5, Switch, Apex controller, etc.
That being said, I used the apps.diagrams.net site to do all the layouts and such for the basement layout.
No NAS at the moment, but I do plan on expanding the network in the future. I'll put a rack in the basement that right now will just have a small 8 port POE switch and the UDR7 sitting on it. In the future I'll replace that switch with a larger 24 or 48 port rack mount switch, put a rack mount NAS in it, etc. The basement alone will need 8 network drops, and there are two places on the main level I think I can actually fish wire to for TVs. Since the basement is being gutted to the concrete and blocks it'll be easy enough to run wire. I'm going to wire everything I can. 4 TVs, 2 PCs, Xbox, ps5, Switch, Apex controller, etc.
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:04 pm to TigerFanatic99
Adding a mesh network is a major network overhaul now?
Posted on 10/31/26 at 5:36 am to TigerFanatic99
Not a network pro but my two cents.
1. Almost no good reason to go with prosumer ubiquiti or Omada routing gear. While they abstract l2 and l3 for easy subnetting, they still really suck at IPv6 and (no acceleration for nat6 and no NPT at all). Plus cheap consumer stuff can already solve all the common issues.
2. Managed access points are a different story. While obviously wireless node selection should be handled by the clients, clients don’t get a lot of information needed to make good decisions from consumer mesh. Also default decisioning is optimized to be as generic and crappy as possible. This means your locked down iPhone or work laptop will almost always be on the wrong node if you move around significantly and will hold on to that wrong node for a very long time until completely unusable. Managed WiFi can solve this and give you WiFi control over devices that previously either offered none or locked you out of said settings.
1. Almost no good reason to go with prosumer ubiquiti or Omada routing gear. While they abstract l2 and l3 for easy subnetting, they still really suck at IPv6 and (no acceleration for nat6 and no NPT at all). Plus cheap consumer stuff can already solve all the common issues.
2. Managed access points are a different story. While obviously wireless node selection should be handled by the clients, clients don’t get a lot of information needed to make good decisions from consumer mesh. Also default decisioning is optimized to be as generic and crappy as possible. This means your locked down iPhone or work laptop will almost always be on the wrong node if you move around significantly and will hold on to that wrong node for a very long time until completely unusable. Managed WiFi can solve this and give you WiFi control over devices that previously either offered none or locked you out of said settings.
Posted on 10/31/26 at 10:24 am to Dallaswho
quote:
Almost no good reason to go with prosumer ubiquiti or Omada routing gear.
Here's my project for today.
Stayed up late and got the software Omada controller setup in an lxc and I'm ready to tear apart my rack today and pull out that noisy arse hp Enterprise switch my FiL gave me years ago and move DHCP off technitium onto the tplink.
Can't wait to stop using that att modem.
Posted on 10/31/26 at 12:20 pm to Dallaswho
quote:
Almost no good reason to go with prosumer ubiquiti or Omada routing gear.
They just try to lock you into a singular ecosystem. Both of them make some fantastic APs for the price, though (unfortunately they still require a dedicated controller for initial setup, or at least they used to)
This post was edited on 10/31/26 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 10/31/26 at 12:59 pm to TigerFanatic99
6/6e/7 triband mesh. Unless you want to backhaul with Ethernet.
Posted on 10/31/26 at 1:37 pm to bluebarracuda
quote:i was able to connect the eap650 to my existing att network to test out the signal and placement. I'm going all local. The software controller will be fine. Not purchasing dedicated hardware for a controller.
unfortunately they still require a dedicated controller for initial setup, or at least they used to
Posted on 10/31/26 at 1:46 pm to bluebarracuda
quote:
They just try to lock you into a singular ecosystem. Both of them make some fantastic APs for the price, though (unfortunately they still require a dedicated controller for initial setup, or at least they used to)
I’m a few hundred bucks into a Unifi network system with 5 APs and 2 switches that have been pretty rock solid and run off an old MacBook as a controller when needed.
This has been going on for 6 years or so now and I couldn’t be happier.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 6:57 am to CAD703X
I’m not saying their routers are bad but just that, for the home, they don’t solve a lot of problems that can’t be solved cheaper and easier by regular home gear.
The only reason I ever personally looked into “prosumer” routing gear was for NPT and they didn’t support it. UI had some really weak NAT6 support but that’s just not acceptable.
The only reason I ever personally looked into “prosumer” routing gear was for NPT and they didn’t support it. UI had some really weak NAT6 support but that’s just not acceptable.
Posted on 11/1/26 at 9:40 am to TigerFanatic99
Delete - posted in wrong thread.
This post was edited on 11/1/26 at 9:45 am
Posted on 11/2/26 at 11:42 am to CAD703X
quote:
Here's my project for today.
Im literally comparing going from my Unifi system and u6pros to an Omada system...
i dont need too...but i might, lol
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