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Hard Wire or Wireless
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:41 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:41 pm
Starting new construction on my residence next week. Was thinking of running CAT6 wire throughout the house and dropping lines into every room. After discussing this with the IT guy in my department, he recommended to just put WAPs throughout the house and maybe just drop a hard line into living room. From what he said, wireless is just as strong a signal as wireless now days and with WAPs throughout the house would be just as strong as hard wiring. Just wanted to get a few more opinions on this. Thanks 

Posted on 9/6/16 at 9:44 pm to blades8088
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From what he said, wireless is just as strong a signal as wireless now days and with WAPs throughout the house would be just as strong as hard wiring.
Your IT guy is wrong.
Hard wire is ALWAYS >>>>>>>>> Wireless
But... Practically speaking, wireless is good enough for most people.
With new construction I would wire everything AND put WAPs.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:09 pm to blades8088
Unless its super expensive, you might as well hardwire it while you have the chance. Wireless will probably be ok be I'd rather play it safe.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 10:25 pm to blades8088
quote:
wireless is just as strong a signal as wireless now days and with WAPs throughout the house would be just as strong as hard wiring
I just put 700 feet of wire in our house this weekend. Our wireless was horrible.
Posted on 9/6/16 at 11:23 pm to SG_Geaux
quote:
Your IT guy is wrong.
Hard wire is ALWAYS >>>>>>>>> Wireless
But... Practically speaking, wireless is good enough for most people.
With new construction I would wire everything AND put WAPs.
This
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:32 am to blades8088
Just hardwire where you use computers stationary like an office or a desktop, and wire one or two WAPs elsewhere. Both of my bedrooms have hard lines, and the rest of the house is wireless
Posted on 9/7/16 at 6:18 am to Hammertime
If it's new construction then run Cat5E or 6 to every location that will have a TV and a computer, also pull cable to spot on the ceiling to mount access points.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 7:51 am to broadhead
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If it's new construction then run Cat5E or 6 to every location that will have a TV and a computer
+1, but to add, I would run 2 drops behind every TV (and potential TV, including outside) along with coax. Personally I would run the same behind the beds incase you reconfigure the rooms later. With a wall plate like this but only using two of the spots.

Also, I would add PVC conduit through the walls and stopping right at the top plate in the attic, in order to be able to upgrade the Ethernet later with ease. If you have a 4 bedroom, living room, office, kitchen tv, and outside TV, and have two drops per bedroom, you are only looking at ~$50 in PVC / fittings assuming 10' ceilings and 3/4" conduit. Well worth it in 5-6 years if you want to upgrade, plus you could save that by not maxing out cat cable right now and just using what is most efficient for you. (Cat5/cat5e instead of cat6/cat6e)
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 7:57 am
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:08 am to Monday
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I just put 700 feet of wire in our house this weekend.
Me too. Sheetrock is off right now, so I figured why not. I just ran two ports per bedroom, and 4 ports in the living room, all leading to a patch panel in the back of the house, and a 16-port dumb switch.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 8:50 am to blades8088
I'm going to be contrarian just because I can...
What are you doing in your house that you may need a computer in every room? With the advancement of WAPs and wireless protocols you could easily cover the entire house with a few spots.
oh heck, who am I kidding? Ethernet cable is super cheap and is incredibly versatile. You can always use the drops for HDMI over Ethernet or something similar.
What are you doing in your house that you may need a computer in every room? With the advancement of WAPs and wireless protocols you could easily cover the entire house with a few spots.

oh heck, who am I kidding? Ethernet cable is super cheap and is incredibly versatile. You can always use the drops for HDMI over Ethernet or something similar.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:01 am to broadhead
quote:Might also consider pulling runs out to possible security camera locations.
If it's new construction then run Cat5E or 6 to every location that will have a TV and a computer, also pull cable to spot on the ceiling to mount access points.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:04 am to The Rodfather
quote:Why? if you want to upgrade just attach the new cables to the old and pull through. I think PVc would be a waste of money.
Also, I would add PVC conduit through the walls and stopping right at the top plate in the attic,
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:07 am to SG_Geaux
quote:
Your IT guy is wrong. Hard wire is ALWAYS >>>>>>>>> Wireless
This....You can get damn good with just wireless if you are willing to spend the money for enterprise level managed wireless devices (a thousand + dollars per AP). I'd run CAT6 to wherever you can and strategically place the best consumer level APs that you can afford.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 9:08 am to Korkstand
quote:i have ran cables to tvs and cameras in my current house. I wish i lived in a cool area so i could do more but it is so miserable.
Korkstand
My dream is when i build my house is to GC it myself and have a week before drywall where i go in and wire ethernet and coax myself to the places i want.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:00 am to CarRamrod
Because it is only ~$50-60 and you don't have to worry about tight spaces along exterior walls, skinning the wire up pulling it, add an additional wire if the need arises without having to backpull and repull to get the original wire back in or leaving a pull line for a spare, you don't have to worry about insulation on exterior walls, and you don't have to worry about loose wires and the problems it can cause (nails, pinching in the Sheetrock,...). Is it necessary, no. But it has almost no additional cost and makes for a cleaner, future proof installation.
Eta. Not to mention you don't have to worry about having the right sized head on the attached wire to fit through the holes you drilled without getting hung up in the middle of the wall. Especially with insulation and fire blocking on exterior walls that can cause another hang up point along with insulation being caught and pulled with the wires.
To each his own, I just see it as a very worth wild cost for only $50-60.
Eta. Not to mention you don't have to worry about having the right sized head on the attached wire to fit through the holes you drilled without getting hung up in the middle of the wall. Especially with insulation and fire blocking on exterior walls that can cause another hang up point along with insulation being caught and pulled with the wires.
To each his own, I just see it as a very worth wild cost for only $50-60.
This post was edited on 9/7/16 at 10:03 am
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:05 am to The Rodfather
but you said to only run it to the top of that wall? what about all the situations you said after that in the attic?
and i dont see anything wrong with just running your fiberglass rod through the same hole in the fame down to the plug, no need to back pull. i have never had an issue with that.
not knocking your idea, i just thing it is pointless to run this "conduit" just for upgrades later. for cable management through a space maybe.
and i dont see anything wrong with just running your fiberglass rod through the same hole in the fame down to the plug, no need to back pull. i have never had an issue with that.
not knocking your idea, i just thing it is pointless to run this "conduit" just for upgrades later. for cable management through a space maybe.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 10:08 am to blades8088
What department is the IT guy in? Hardwired ALL day. No questions.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:21 am to JinFL
We ran two Cat6 to every room--in some places 3. Worth it.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 11:44 am to JinFL
quote:PoE is sweet when you're mounting cameras around the house.
Hardwired ALL day. No questions.
Posted on 9/7/16 at 12:36 pm to CAD703X
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PoE
Another outstanding reason for wired if you are buying the equipment that supports it.
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