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Generator safety for electronics question

Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:32 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:32 am
With so many baws using generator power after the storm, there are certainly concerns about portable generators producing power that isn’t safe for electronics. Does anyone know of any solution or product to make generator power safer for powering computers or a tv?
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 8/31/21 at 6:24 am to
You need one with an inverter
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1736 posts
Posted on 8/31/21 at 5:17 pm to
Use a UPS on your electronics.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:30 am to
what dou you think is unsafe? use a surge protector if concerned. im pretty sure you're just assuming these concerns. generally a device is going to pull the current it needs. a computer power supply has built in protection from minor spikes.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77927 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 11:43 am to
I have a whole home generator. My PC handles things just fine.

When the AC kicks on, there is enough of a temporary voltage drop that my living room surge protector kicks in and cuts the power to my gear so I have it unplugged right now.

I may look at a UPS for the living room stuff in the future
This post was edited on 9/1/21 at 12:06 pm
Posted by zippyputt
Member since Jul 2005
5736 posts
Posted on 9/1/21 at 4:27 pm to
I try not to run them directly. I’ll charge a portable battery charging brick and then charge my device from that. I don’t run computers etc…
Posted by TigerGman
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Posted on 9/2/21 at 6:01 am to
Get an inverter generator and you have no worries powering all your electronics. My Honda is one of the best investments I ever made. It sips gas and is quiet as hell too.
This post was edited on 9/2/21 at 6:05 am
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 9:47 am to
surge protector. this is a must.

generator must be Inverter.

Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33854 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

Use a UPS on your electronics.


My UPSs refused to be charged by the generator. Tried at least 4 of them and the battery just keeps draining.
Posted by STBTigerr
Mandeville/New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
5345 posts
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:16 pm to
quote:

what dou you think is unsafe? use a surge protector if concerned. im pretty sure you're just assuming these concerns. generally a device is going to pull the current it needs. a computer power supply has built in protection from minor spikes.


Generators put out THD/total harmonic distortion. Most electronics are designed to withstand low THD, and higher % will cause them to overheat. Short term it’s not really an issue but long term exposure could cause some failures. Most portable generators have a high THD, like up to 20%. Inverter generators are generally designed to keep it below 3%.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1736 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:10 am to
I haven't had that issue with my UPS units. If I had to guess your generator isn't outputting the correct, or within range, frequency when under a load. Engine speed is the culprit for this. If you have a decent multimeter that will measure frequency you need to test your generator. You can do this with no load. The frequency should come in around 62-63 hertz. If it isn't there adjust your governor to increase or decrease the engine speed until you reach that frequency range. Ideally the generator should hold your setting, unloaded. Once you've done that introduce just the UPS units to the generator and see if they work/charge the batteries. If they do, then start introducing other loads to see if the frequency wanders and the UPS units stop charging the batteries. If that occurs try and adjust the engine speed, if possible. If you can't make it work you probably have something wrong with the generator, or you are pushing it's limits and may need to consider upsizing the generator.

Hope this helps.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33854 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 9:08 am to
Nice post. It's certainly not undersized. Luckily we got power back already but I'll keep in mind to check the frequency next go round.
Posted by SG_Geaux
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Member since Aug 2004
77927 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 7:56 pm to
Some UPS units are compatible with generators. Most small cheap home units are not.

The ones I am finding that are specifically generator compatible are like $800 and up
Posted by LsuFan_1955
Slidell, La
Member since Jul 2013
1736 posts
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:58 pm to
I haven't run into the problem, yet. All my UPS units are APC home units, and my generator is brand new this year.

ETA: My most expensive UPS units were just over $200.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 9:00 pm
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33854 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Most small cheap home units are not.


These are not small cheap ones.

quote:

The ones I am finding that are specifically generator compatible are like $800 and up


Ok, maybe they are small cheap ones.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
28703 posts
Posted on 9/7/21 at 12:56 pm to
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