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Elon Musk's Traffic Tunnels

Posted on 5/13/17 at 12:32 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 5/13/17 at 12:32 pm
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Elon Musk has begun digging under Los Angeles.

The entrepreneur posted Friday several pictures of equipment meant for digging tunnels beneath Los Angeles.

The project is one of Musk's latest ventures, which was inspired by a desire to alleviate "out of control" traffic in Los Angeles.

He aims to first dig a tunnel from SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, California, to the nearby Los Angeles airport. Musk frequently flies from Los Angeles to the San Francisco area, where he runs Tesla. Eventually, he envisions a deep, multilayered network of underground tunnels spanning the city.

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There is no onramp, you drive your car onto a "skate" platform which takes an elevator down to the tunnel and then the skate takes you to your destination at speeds up to 125 MPH.





The key to this is Musk thinks he can reduce the cost of tunneling by a factor of 10 or more by both improving the borer and by reducing the diameter of the tunnel needed. He hopes using skates instead of letting people drive will let them get around tunnel size regulations that are currently aimed at accommodating wrecks and emissions that shouldn't be an issue with the skates.
Posted by Venelar
The AP
Member since Oct 2010
1229 posts
Posted on 5/13/17 at 10:25 pm to
They can build tunnels and shite, we can't even get a loop going.
This post was edited on 5/13/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 7:47 am to
His tunnel to lax is a learning tool. Proof of concept and insiders are the only users.

Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 7:56 am to
Not making tunnel wide enough for extrication is asking for trouble.

You can save money on mining too if you use half the timber.

First sign of stupid i have on this guy.

One really big stupid > so many good elements.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:32 am to
Let's build tunnels in an earthquake prone area. Brilliant!!
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18935 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Let's build tunnels in an earthquake prone area. Brilliant!!



Places like San Francisco and Tokyo have underground tunnels that have survived several earthquakes. In fact, with the new age safe guards, many believe that the latest tunnels built in SF are the safest place in the city during an earthquake.
Posted by Mac
Member since Nov 2007
14848 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 7:35 pm to
What about earthquakes
Posted by tilco
Spanish Fort, AL
Member since Nov 2013
14762 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:34 pm to
How would these tunnels hold up in an earthquake tho
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 9:50 pm to
They already have tunnels in Los Angeles for the subway and I would imagine there are regulations for tunnels just like there are for buildings regarding being built to handle earthquakes of a certain magnitude.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:21 pm to
But what about earthquakes?
Posted by el duderino III
People's Republic of Austin
Member since Jul 2011
2432 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:23 pm to
quote:

They already have tunnels in Los Angeles for the subway and I would imagine there are regulations for tunnels just like there are for buildings regarding being built to handle earthquakes of a certain magnitude.
this. I would feel safer in a tunnel built by an elon musk run company than on a bridge built by the government/civil contractors
This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 10:25 pm
Posted by TheChosenOne
Member since Dec 2005
18935 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:26 pm to
As long as the tunnel doesn't go over a fault line, earthquakes shouldn't be much of an issue. It should just move with the plate that's moving. Concrete bridges and overpasses are much more dangerous during an earthquake because they begin to sway and concrete isn't the most flexible material.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 12:03 am
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:12 am to
I'm sure the dude has thought of everything some random guy on tigerdroppings has thought of
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:24 am to
quote:

Not making tunnel wide enough for extrication is asking for trouble.


I'm sure the dude has thought of everything some random guy on tigerdroppings has thought of


I'm sure something will happen at some point that at the time will make smaller tunnels seem like a bad idea, but everything's a trade off. Do you not build the tunnels at all because a once in a generation incident will make it difficult to save a handful of people trapped in the tunnel? Considering America has been fine with letting 40+k per year die in auto accidents, it seems like a tradeoff we'd make in a heartbeat.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:46 am to
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But what about earthquakes?



But but but, mah Global Warming, er, Climate Change, or whatever the nomenclature of the day is for those poor dead and dying polar bears when the seas rise by 200 kajillion cm's per hour.

Like I've been saying for years: If developers truly believed in ocean rise they would not be investing and building in coastal areas.
Posted by DevilDogTiger
RTWFY!
Member since Nov 2007
6666 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 12:59 pm to
What I would like to know is...


What happens in an earthquake?
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25606 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 1:11 pm to
frick earthquakes....what about the mole people?
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