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yankeeundercover
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Electric scooters/eBike question
A neighbor and his wife got a couple "SwagCycles" and they were a lot of fun to frick around on... I've been checking the swagtron website for a couple months now and every single one of their eBikes are "Out of Stock"...

Does anyone have any experience with any particular model from any other company that they'd recommend?

Also not opposed to an electric scooter if anyone would recommend any of those as well.

TIA
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LsuFan_1955
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
If you have an old bike that you don't ride any longer, you can buy a conversion kit and build your own. I've converted 4 now, and it's a piece of cake. You can buy the kits on ebay and Amazon, among other places.


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It's been a while since I watched videos on bike conversions to ebikes, but if I recall correctly, it's harder but better to put a motor on the back wheel instead of the front wheel. I can't recall if it is safer or it just rides better.

Also if you get on of the few models where the motor is where you pedal then you no longer have a chain to the back wheel to come off or break, but with those center motor models you're stuck if the battery goes dead.

I also recall there is a heavy duty part that you need to add to the front wheel or back wheel conversions, and if you don't add it, look forward to the wheel attachment to shear off due to the torque of the motor.


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BobMayonnaise
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
Super 73 has some nice ones.

LINK


LsuFan_1955
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
Rear mounted is slightly more difficult if you have a multi-speed hub (derailleur). You get all nasty dealing with the chain, otherwise it's just as easy as the front wheel drive. The mid mount models are where it is really at, if you get a motor that is powerful enough. The advantage is the motor can utilize the gears on the rear hub. They can be very fast bikes without spending a few grand on modified battery packs and controllers.

Just as an FYI, one of the bikes I converted was for my wife. It's a Schwinn Hybrid with C-700 wheels. I put a 1250 watt front drive on her bike, 54 vdc battery pack. With Me on it, I weigh 175, it will hit 40 mph on the gps.
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LsuFan_1955
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
Those big fat tires would make them great for the beach!


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98eagle
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My wife and I have regular Mountain bikes that someday I would like to convert. I definitely do not care for high speed and would want to maximize distance and safety. In addition to adding the motor and batteries I will invest in some really quality brakes on the front and back wheels.


LsuFan_1955
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Safety is the utmost concern. Most people don't realize how fast 40 mph is on a bicycle, and the hybrids my wife and I ride have road bike tires. That makes the speed even more concerning. For the record my bike isn't converted. I ride to stay in shape, and converting my bike would take away all the exercise value. I'd have too much fun enjoying the electric to ever exercise again, cause they are a blast to ride!


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Agree on the exercise use of bikes. We are both retired and like to walk and hike a lot. We take our bikes with us sometimes to use on flatter sidewalks, paths, and trails that are not too rutted out or not too hilly/steep just so we can cover more territory. Our neighborhood has some relatively steep long hills throughout it. It's nice and great exercise to walk it, but biking is harder especially on the long steep hills. We walk it frequently but rarely bike it. If we had electric bikes we would use the motors to climb those bad hills and then pedal the rest of the way.


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LsuFan_1955
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
I had a friend that I used to work with, he's retired and moved to Colorado. I believe he purchased a couple of electric bikes from Walmart, for around $800 each. They had 20 inch tires that were around 2.5 inches in width. He and his wife were big into doing the RV thing, and the bikes were purchased to run around campgrounds, etc. I believe he said the top speed on these bikes was 20 mph.

I may have been wrong about tire size that my buddy bought. Here's a page of factory built ebikes offered by Walmart.

Walmart ebikes
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Appreciate the link. I'll have to educate myself on conversions vs new bikes and see exactly what we prefer by comparing features and costs.

We do plan to get an RV when we move to our next house which will be in a rural area with room to have one. Right now we haul our bikes around with a bike rack. We should probably go to an eBike store and test ride different ebikes to see what we want. The foldable ones are cool because we could probably carry them in our SUV. But with smaller wheels they are likely not as good on dirt trails so the bigger wheels and tires may be better for us. If possible I would like to test drive a front wheel drive vs rear wheel drive vs mid motor versions to see which handle the best
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LsuFan_1955
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
Keep us posted as you test and make your decision. I'll be interested in seeing what y'all settle on.


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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
Costco (lafayette) had em on sale over the weekend

I was tearing arse up and down the light bulb aisle


LsuFan_1955
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Careful, the damn things are addictive!


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jennyjones
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
quote:

If you have an old bike that you don't ride any longer, you can buy a conversion kit and build your own. I've converted 4 now, and it's a piece of cake. You can buy the kits on ebay and Amazon, among other places.




Any recommendations on conversion kit mfg's?


LsuFan_1955
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re: Electric scooters/eBike question
Yes, this is the outfit I have used on the last two builds. They offer a kit for either a front or rear drive motor. I converted two different bikes with the front drive kit from these people. My wife's hybrid retro cruiser and my friend's wife's tricycle. Both have a C-700 wheel size.

Amazon- EBikeling

Battery and Rack
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98eagle
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What's great about your conversion and battery kits is that you have a higher wattage more powerful motor and higher capacity removable/easily replaceable battery than you're going to find on all but the very expensive ebikes. Also with a conversion you can find the exact bike you want and then convert it.

We will still have to test drive some ebikes to help figure out what we want. For example, I'm not sure 700C wheels are right for us, but they might be. We may want fatter tires for example, but those typically add weight which can be a negative.

I would say we are about 50/50 pavement vs. off road where the off road would be mostly flatter gravel and/or dirt trails/roads that are not too rutted out with roots and larger rocks. Trails that have a good bit of rutted out rocks and roots are the kind we would only hike by foot.



LsuFan_1955
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I am no expert on which bike to select, and most people who do a kit ebike do so with an old bike they had stored in the garage or their shed. Hell, my wife (no pics) and I are riding Schwinn bikes. Obviously not the best bikes around, but we have learned a lot since I started riding some 3 or so years ago. The most important thing you can do, and I'd give the same advice if you were a golfer with some experience, is go get fitted. If I could do it over again I would go to a real bicycle specialty shop and get fitted by a knowledgeable professional. The most important thing in considering any bike is frame size, and that's where the fitting comes in. I am riding a bike that is technically to big for me, and it has nothing to do with tire size, it's all about the size of the frame. You are approaching this project with the right frame of mind, and you have that "do it right the first time" attitude. I think you and your wife will do well on your selection of bikes to convert.


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