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re: Cord Cutters - Cox now capping monthly data usage

Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:47 am to
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
27155 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:47 am to
We have three TVs. One doesn't get much streaming use. One gets a little and the last one gets the most, but I don't believe its heavily used relative to others. This still pisses me off.

My last three months I've averages right at 450gb. Luckily (or not), I don't game on the PC nearly as much as I use to because of family/time.

I want to throat punch ATT CSRs so I haven't had anything from them in about a decade besides cell. Love government backed monopolies.
Posted by Blob Fish
Member since Mar 2016
3091 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 11:27 am to
Is the concept of fair use bullshite? Do some users really slow internet down for the rest?

I use Spectrum - no data caps.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 11:31 am
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25606 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 12:43 pm to
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Is the concept of fair use bullshite? Do some users really slow internet down for the rest?

According to Cox, this won't effect 98% of customers....so I don't see how those few who stream at high levels are making that much of a difference.
Posted by Venelar
The AP
Member since Oct 2010
1166 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 1:36 pm to
We are cordcutters and have cox. We average about 400gigs/month. I'm still tempted to switch to Eatel out of principle.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
57947 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

I have AT&T internet
mines not.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126216 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:19 pm to
quote:

Do some users really slow internet down for the rest?


That depends on the infrastructure

since Cox doesn't use fiber to the door, when everyone using the same node is on at once you will notice a difference.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
21415 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:24 pm to
I am on COX internet 150 MB plan:
Running NetFlix, amazon Prime and Sony Vue Entertainment package. I cut the cord with COX in March.

4 TV's in the house plus tablets phones etc.
The last 2 months I have used 1042 GB and 1097 GB.

I am usi9ng the amazon streaming boxes. They keep streaming even if you turn the TV off. I am going to have to figure out a way to get the kids to turn off the boxes.
This post was edited on 6/29/17 at 4:29 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126216 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 4:33 pm to
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I am usi9ng the amazon streaming boxes. They keep streaming even if you turn the TV off. I am going to have to figure out a way to get the kids to turn off the boxes.


You have to go to the home screen on fire tv then turn your tv off

Unless you have a smart tv the turns the fire tv on and off. My fire tv can also turn on my tv to bring up the main menu.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24714 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:01 pm to
Strategically it is a pretty impressive way for COX to give the bird to cord cutters. You have to remember that the TECH board will overindex in internet usage so of course it posses off this population the most.

Alternatively, what if COX offers an internet plan that is unlimited for $500/month and makes it where you are incentivized to move back to cable?

I hate the cable companies but I can't blame them for trying to keep their cash cow fat and healthy.
Posted by ILikeLSUToo
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2008
18018 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:55 pm to
quote:

Strategically it is a pretty impressive way for COX to give the bird to cord cutters. You have to remember that the TECH board will overindex in internet usage so of course it posses off this population the most.


It's the only population it pisses off, and it was really the only move for Cox to make. I knew it was coming. I am somewhat relieved that the cap is not lower, but it's still low enough that I'm going to have to really pay attention to my torrenting. I'm not even a cord cutter.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126216 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:10 pm to
Anyone in a market that Cox doesn't have a monopoly will drop them
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:36 pm to
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That depends on the infrastructure

since Cox doesn't use fiber to the door, when everyone using the same node is on at once you will notice a difference.


This has much less to do with total bandwidth used and much more with Cox overselling bandwidth and not upgrading infrastructure to compensate for utilization at peak times.

Not to mention that if this were actually the problem, it could easily be remedied much more satisfactorily by simply deprioritizing heavy bandwidth users during heavily congested times. So if a node is congested, anyone who has used less than 1TB in the past 30 days is put at a higher priority than those who have used 1TB or more, for example.

But this has nothing to do with congestion or overuse. This is simply a money grab by Cox to fight the trend of cord-cutting and recover losses to their cable TV services. Nothing more, nothing less. Not to mention cord-cutting will become gradually more common soon simply because of 4K TVs slowly being adopted. The only decent way to get 4K content is through the internet, and Cox doesn't have a 4K solution yet.
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18697 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:44 pm to
quote:

Alternatively, what if COX offers an internet plan that is unlimited for $500/month and makes it where you are incentivized to move back to cable?



That would be silly expensive. Users can always get on a business plan for unlimited. I pay $120/month for 120/20 business class service to my home through Cox and I have no cap, plus I get perks like static IP, unblocked ports, prioritized bandwidth, biz class support, etc.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34975 posts
Posted on 6/29/17 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Anyone in a market that Cox doesn't have a monopoly will drop them



At&t has the same fricking cap. I'll save some money for a year by signing a contract but frickity frick frick.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126216 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:41 am to
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At&t has the same fricking cap. I'll save some money for a year by signing a contract but frickity frick frick.


Their cap is 1TB on their low end user speeds. People with 15 down are not going to burn through a TB in a month.

Their gig service doesn't have a cap.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126216 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 10:46 am to
quote:

This has much less to do with total bandwidth used and much more with Cox overselling bandwidth and not upgrading infrastructure to compensate for utilization at peak times. Not to mention that if this were actually the problem, it could easily be remedied much more satisfactorily by simply deprioritizing heavy bandwidth users during heavily congested times. So if a node is congested, anyone who has used less than 1TB in the past 30 days is put at a higher priority than those who have used 1TB or more, for example. But this has nothing to do with congestion or overuse. This is simply a money grab by Cox to fight the trend of cord-cutting and recover losses to their cable TV services. Nothing more, nothing less. Not to mention cord-cutting will become gradually more common soon simply because of 4K TVs slowly being adopted. The only decent way to get 4K content is through the internet, and Cox doesn't have a 4K solution yet.


Hell they don't even need to run fiber to the door.

The fiber to cabinet system works just fine and use coax for the last mile. Increase the amount of cabinets or nodes and decrease the amount of users and distance to each house.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
34975 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:26 am to
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Their cap is 1TB on their low end user speeds. People with 15 down are not going to burn through a TB in a month.

Their gig service doesn't have a cap.



Can't get gig at my house. All of the other internet tiers for Cox and att have the same 1tb cap which is fricking retarded.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41861 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:31 am to
finally got this email

my last three months were 250, 250, and 500 GB; so i should be safe

this is shite though and I'd be livid if I were a user potentially affected
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31005 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 11:35 am to
you folks whining about 1TB data cap don't know how lucky you have it. my provider (suddenlink) rolled out a 250gb data cap. had to jump 2 tiers to get to unlimited - and even then its a soft cap. theyll throttle you at 1tb (but wont actually tell you that)

data caps under 1 tb should be illegal on broadband connections.
data caps in general should be illegal unless the provider offers an unlimited tier as well.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126216 posts
Posted on 6/30/17 at 12:24 pm to
Cable one I have a 700GB with 200 down for $100 a month, the next tier is the same speed but a 750GB for $130 then the next is 200 down with a TB for $155. Their policy is to automatically pump you up a tier if you break your cap 3 times in a year.

Their gig service is next and its $175 a month a still have a fricking 1.1TB a month data cap. fricking highway robbery.
This post was edited on 6/30/17 at 12:27 pm
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