re: Are macs really that much better than windows pc’s?

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yall are arguing with Gman, you could literally show him a test where the apple computer or iphone failed and he was say it didnt.

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Lol, you’re the Windows version of Gman.

Well I'm not gonna keep arguing about it. A pic is worth a thousand words. If you can't see the difference I can't help you...

GUIs are for kids. Real men use a CLI.

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Yeah, except that is not what Windows looks like anymore.

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its like arguing with a toddler. My 2 year old would give a better rebuttal than that geezer Gman.

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Sorority girls and hipsters use Macs. People who work in the real world use PCs.

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Almost every professional I know uses a MBP at home and owns an iPhone

The art student and girl trope is a bit outdated

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Well I'm not gonna keep arguing about it. A pic is worth a thousand words. If you can't see the difference I can't help you...

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Idiot has a full screen start menu.

As if you can't customize it, change your wallpaper, etc.

Few things display a lack of self-awareness quite like socially awkward IT nerds shitting on adult, professional Mac users as being girly

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diot has a full screen start menu.

As if you can't customize it, change your wallpaper, etc.

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In other words the default design looks like shite so I have to change it all up. Says a lot about Windows appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Compare an M1 Macbook Air VS a similarly priced Window's machine and the performance isn't close. There are hundreds of YouTube videos proving this. Even much more expensive Window's computers can't hang. At this same price point, it's also easy to say that build quality is much better but that is subjective. Some people prefer a plastic computer vs all aluminum.

I have both, it's all a personal preference. Hating on something because of a stereotype is dumb though, I love my Mac and and am the farthest thing from a hipster. I just like quality stuff that lasts a long time.

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The Macbook air comes with 8GB ram and integrated graphics

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Yeah- m1 have “pretty good for integrated” graphics, but I think even a 1050 would still push the performance of anything else down.


He’s probably referring to a few benchmarks which the m1 performs great on, not any real GPU-intensive applications. He’s not wrong that for what 85% of people use it for, it’s no worse than any other computer out there, but the suggestion that it can even compete in its price range with some of the lower-end gaming laptops is sort of silly. They can probably browse the internet at roughly equal speeds, and you won’t miss much on the m1 when you’re doing some light work- it actually runs photoshop pretty well. If your files are from a phone camera, and you’re adding filters, you aren’t missing out on much by not springing for a “heavier duty” laptop, but you aren’t going to render video anything like a discreet GPU, which are readily available in this price range.

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You can upgrade the RAM on the Macs

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I posted in one thread about my memory management issue on an 8gb RAM MacBook Air (I think it’s the model with the 8-core GPU because I couldn’t find the 7-core available). This hasn’t been much of an issue for me. The main reason I bought it was that I was looking for accurate speech to text. The gold standard is Dragon Naturally Speaking which costs more than this laptop. I had bought one of the Mac Mini with an m1 as a toy. I like GarageBand and the wife and I do a little home studio stuff, and it’s simple enough to be able to teach her (I miss using Ardour on an Ubuntu box, but that’s not happening with her…). I was actually really impressed with the speech to text ability that comes native with it. Found out eventually that it was licensed from the makers of Dragon. Further, within the last two months or so, Microsoft announced the acquisition of canonical Hopefully, a similar product will be seen in/on Cortana. And yes- I compared the integrated speech to text of OSX to dragon’s speech to text feature. The price comparison isn’t fair given the template and other features found in Dragon, but those don’t flow with my EHR nearly as much and are a little “too much” for what I need.


So, now that RAM management hasn’t been an issue, the machine is fine for very basic web-browser access, speech to text, long battery life, portability. But in terms of “feel” of quality or actual performance in these functions, it’s certainly not head and shoulders above a Surface Laptop 3 (I think this is a fair comparison for a compact, aluminum 13” computer around $1000).
Surface gets you a touch screen extra
Mac let’s you use your iPad as a second wireless display (without touch)
When you look at benchmarks, you may see a difference. If you sit there and try to convert videos from format A to B to stress cpu out to prove which ones faster, you may find a winner in the Mac (this comparison ignores all the laptops with a discreet GPU, because no one who essentially even knows what this is is considering a post Intel Mac), but if these things aren’t part of your actual day, I don’t think you’re going to notice a difference in daily talks on one to the other to call one a real “performance” winner.

Now, if you want to maybe talk about the ins/outs of a specific program or three where you’re spending 90+% of your time, you may argue an m1 is the best value to do those things and that the horsepower isn’t lacking, but you’ll probably find yourself arguing benchmarks and repetitive sequence testing rather than actual daily performance