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Any Cyber/Info Sec folks in here?
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:14 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:14 am
I've been doing some reading, and think Cyber security would be an interesting field to dabble in, potentially make a career change.
Anyways, looking for somewhere to start. Any good forums, blogs, etc out there that anyone would recommend?
FWIW, I am not in the technology field currently. This would be a cold turkey jump for me.
TIA
Anyways, looking for somewhere to start. Any good forums, blogs, etc out there that anyone would recommend?
FWIW, I am not in the technology field currently. This would be a cold turkey jump for me.
TIA
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Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:21 am to TaderSalad
quote:What's your background?
FWIW, I am not in the technology field currently. This would be a cold turkey jump for me.
Without any kind of technical knowledge of servers, software, OS, apps, networking, SCADA, etc., you're going to have a really hard time jumping in somewhere even at the entry level where businesses hire software/computer engineers just out of college. 10 years ago, you probably could have, but it's a growing field now with lots of candidates to choose from. What's nice, though, is that when you get in the field and have experience both on the technical and regulatory side, you're a sought-after commodity.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 11:26 am
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:28 am to ell_13
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What's your background?
Investigations.
Read an article where Cyber industry has plenty of folks out there have more of the technical knowledge but lack the investigative/analytical mindset. Just seemed interesting. Looking for additional resources
Posted on 4/16/18 at 11:49 am to TaderSalad
quote:Most of the "tech" people I know in the industry are extremely analytical.
Cyber industry has plenty of folks out there have more of the technical knowledge but lack the investigative/analytical mindset
There are two things you generally have to know: 1) what am I protecting my system(s) from? and 2) how do I protect it/them?
Sometimes (very often), those two things are spelled out by a regulatory body. Once you have procedures and processes in place, then it's all about the tools. Virus protection, change control, intrusion detection (physical and electronic), patching, etc.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 12:03 pm to TaderSalad
I'll add to what ell said. To be effective at cybersecurity, you really need a solid background in networking and systems first. You can't find "not normal" if you don't know what normal is to begin with.
With your background, data forensics may be more achievable. Much smaller skill set required than an analyst/engineer like myself. You'll still need to get really smart on memory analysis, and have a good understanding of OS processes and such.
Not trying to discourage you by any means, I just want to give you a realistic expectation of the industry.
ETA: And the above is why there is still a huge shortage in the cybersecurity world. You just can't make an (effective) analyst overnight. And just about every college program is straight up garbage outside of the big boys like Carnegie Mellon, Johns Hopkins, MIT, etc.
With your background, data forensics may be more achievable. Much smaller skill set required than an analyst/engineer like myself. You'll still need to get really smart on memory analysis, and have a good understanding of OS processes and such.
Not trying to discourage you by any means, I just want to give you a realistic expectation of the industry.
ETA: And the above is why there is still a huge shortage in the cybersecurity world. You just can't make an (effective) analyst overnight. And just about every college program is straight up garbage outside of the big boys like Carnegie Mellon, Johns Hopkins, MIT, etc.
This post was edited on 4/16/18 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 4/16/18 at 1:33 pm to Centinel
Appreciate the feedback, fellas.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:25 pm to TaderSalad
A+>CCENT>CCNA R/S> CCNA Security.
This would be a good certification path for you.
A+ being the only one I'd potentially skip.
No need to spend a ton of money for bs "higher education."
You can get all of those by self study. They will land you a job where you want.
This would be a good certification path for you.
A+ being the only one I'd potentially skip.
No need to spend a ton of money for bs "higher education."
You can get all of those by self study. They will land you a job where you want.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 3:29 pm to TaderSalad
quote:
Investigations
I could see you leveraging that into a digital forensics career. SANS and EC-Council both have highly respected certifications in that field.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 6:04 pm to jcole4lsu
quote:
SANS and EC-Council both have highly respected certifications in that field.
SANS, yes. I hold a GCFA.
EC Council? Not just no, but HELL NO. That entire organization is a joke. Stay far, far away from anything they produce.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 9:14 pm to TaderSalad
If you want a job in CS just learn to say no.
Posted on 4/16/18 at 10:30 pm to TaderSalad
How old are you?
I'm a data/systems analyst and work kind of in the intersection of appdev and financial reporting for a large corporation, with some pretty mediocre coding/sql skills and have been building computers since I was about ten. So I've got maybe a 6-10 year head start on you, depending on how much of college you want to count, and I wouldn't even dream of trying to get into cyber security.
quote:
FWIW, I am not in the technology field currently.
quote:If I'm being completely honest, I think you're significantly underestimating the amount of knowledge and skill required to even get a foot in the door.
interesting field to dabble in
I'm a data/systems analyst and work kind of in the intersection of appdev and financial reporting for a large corporation, with some pretty mediocre coding/sql skills and have been building computers since I was about ten. So I've got maybe a 6-10 year head start on you, depending on how much of college you want to count, and I wouldn't even dream of trying to get into cyber security.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 5:07 am to el duderino III
This isnt really a field you decide to “dabble” in.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 11:24 am to gmrkr5
quote:
This isnt really a field you decide to “dabble” in.
Ain't that the truth
Posted on 4/17/18 at 2:33 pm to TaderSalad
I can tell you firsthand that Baton Rouge is a bad place to try to get started in this field.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 3:35 pm to Brosef Stalin
Why is that?
Posted on 4/17/18 at 5:43 pm to ell_13
You can't even get an entry level job without 2-3 years experience unless you have connections.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 6:04 pm to TaderSalad
quote:
Cyber security would be an interesting field to dabble in,
. You haven't thought this through Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:33 pm to Brosef Stalin
quote:
You can't even get an entry level job without 2-3 years experience unless you have connections.
There is no such thing as "entry level security". The few soc analyst positions that do exist are usually filled through internship placement.
Otherwise you need 5 years in a role with security responsibilities (think network admin that is also in charge of the firewall) and a CISSP.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 7:55 pm to jcole4lsu
The guys I know up here in cyber security are mostly mad scientist genius types. Several never went to college, know networking inside and out and have every certification known to man. They think like computers and are mostly former hackers.
Posted on 4/17/18 at 8:57 pm to TaderSalad
It's a great interest of mine. I have the OSCP cert.
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