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re: Zlatan: MLS can never reach the level of European soccer leagues with salary cap in place

Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:28 am to
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
24975 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 10:28 am to
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doesn't Zlatan know that passion didn't sign him, money did????



Uhh....you are making his point and completely missed his point all at the same time.

Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85404 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 1:31 pm to
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Imagine Boca charging Arsenal prices for tickets, there will a civil war in Argentina.


Arsenal games are still cheaper than the fricking saints. I never understand the bitching about this.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 1:32 pm to
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I sure hope thats not the mentality of the MLS brass.


It’s not but for me as a Fan I’m not losing sleep over the MLS being a bad league (compared to the others in Europe and some South American)
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29548 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 2:15 pm to
Those leagues had a 100 year head start and don’t have numerous other sports competing against soccer. I’m convinced we will get there eventually.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/21/19 at 4:13 pm to
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Those leagues had a 100 year head start and don’t have numerous other sports competing against soccer. I’m convinced we will get there eventually.


Maybe eventually.

But not in my lifetime , so it won’t matter
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
53476 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 6:04 am to
I mean how can we really tell anyway...

MLS can't really ever play UEFA clubs except for the FIFA Club World Cup, and that's a joke.

No one will ever accept we're better even if revenues and payroll are 50x Mexico's for example.

Btw the question is no longer "can an MLS team survive in the Premier League", now it's "how many MLS teams would survive in the Premier League".
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 6:08 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 6:20 am to
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No one will ever accept we're better even if revenues and payroll are 50x Mexico's for example.


But we aren’t

We consistently lose to Mexican teams in the CONCACAF Champions league
We haven’t won this since 2000

That’s the only measure I got though

I guess this new leagues cup, but it’s brand new
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 6:21 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 6:43 am to
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We consistently lose to Mexican teams in the CONCACAF Champions league
Doesn't help that we're usually in preseason form, but we've recently done better against Mexican team.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 6:56 am to
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Doesn't help that we're usually in preseason form, but we've recently done better against Mexican team.

That’s another thing I’ll ask.
Why is the MLS season when it is?

I know Liga MX does 2 seasons or whatever the frick it is.
Semesters or some shite

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:14 am to
Hard to play in half of the cities from late November through February.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 7:15 am to
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from late November through February.

Is it?
They play football in similar cities
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:03 am to
I said hard, not impossible.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:06 am to
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I said hard, not impossible.


Outside of ridiculous snow storms, I feel like it would be more dangerous in extreme heat than extreme cold.
Of course you had negative figures in places like Minnesota

But 20-30 degrees isn’t that bad.

I run in the morning. Gimme that over 100
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:12 am to
It's harder to keep the field in good condition when it's colder. That matters a lot more in soccer than it does in football.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:17 am to
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It's harder to keep the field in good condition when it's colder. That matters a lot more in soccer than it does in football.


Fair enough.
Didn’t think of that

But how many cold weather teams play on artificial surfaces?
Posted by GhostofJackson
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Member since Nov 2009
7024 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:37 am to
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Why is the MLS season when it is?


Pretty simple. Would have been hard to compete with Football and Basketball when the MLS first started. The window they picked has the least competition and coincides with a bunch of international competitions that can keep the hype for soccer going.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 8:43 am to
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But how many cold weather teams play on artificial surfaces?

Minnesota, Toronto (hybrid), Montreal, Chicago, Columbus, NYRB, NYCFC, Philly, DC, SKC, Colorado, and RSL all have grass.

Almost half of the league can be considered to play in cold weather areas and play on grass fields.
This post was edited on 7/24/19 at 9:05 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126568 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:41 pm to
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Btw the question is no longer "can an MLS team survive in the Premier League", now it's "how many MLS teams would survive in the Premier League".


MLS sides have no where near the depth
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
12694 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:43 pm to
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I know Liga MX does 2 seasons or whatever the frick it is.
Semesters or some shite


Apertura and Clausura. Latin Tradition since the 90s. Their season runs July-May, so they take advantage of the distinct split at Christmas/New Year. Includes fun shite like crowning two champions every year, having two tournaments (for a while, its back to annual), and a big other cup between the champions.

Also, several countries still run in July and August despite the heat, so I'm not sure if it's that big of a deal.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/24/19 at 2:51 pm to
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Also, several countries still run in July and August despite the heat, so I'm not sure if it's that big of a deal.


Gets pretty fricking cold in Russia and they still play the “normal” calendar
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