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re: WOW, Gyasi Zardes is a good player, but can he not receive a pass?

Posted on 6/9/16 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 2:13 pm to
Zardes first touch compilation.

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But no, this is just groupthink.
This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 2:15 pm
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:01 pm to
It is definitely group think.

Go back and reread the last game thread. It's totally absurd the way this board was piling on Zardes.
Posted by JohnZeroQ
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:04 pm to
Can anybody offer up if this is correctable by him? Maybe some EURO time and he gets that aspect of his game righted?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:31 pm to
having him on the wing is the biggest issue

i think his defensive cover for yed was weak and i'd rather have bedoya out wide starting and then zardes as a sub when the defense is tired. or just put him up top in a 4-4-2 with dempsey so dempsey can roam and zardes is a threat to break out against an over-extended D

i get that he provides space and workrate, but bedoya provides workrate and a slightly less threat of speed (but on the flip side, his cover allows our most explosive space-creater in yedlin to move up)

playing out wide also requires that he dribble the ball more to create an attacking threat, b/c he's further away from the goal. his touch issues will be far less noticeable if he's waiting to impose his speed on a defense creating holes
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

It's totally absurd the way this board was piling on Zardes

If it's well deserved, it isn't groupthink. It's just the truth.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:41 pm to
I think Bedoya just spent an entire season at Nantes playing as a defensively minded central midfielder, and we're only a few days out from him playing an outstanding game in that role for the US. I also think he's set up in the correct position, and that moving him anywhere else would be doing him a serious disservice.

Is he capable of playing out wide, of course he is.

All of that to say, this place would be awfully boring, if we all agreed with each other.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

If it's well deserved, it isn't groupthink. It's just the truth.


Ok. Get back to me when it's well deserved, I guess.
Posted by Tennessee Jed
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:48 pm to
pvilleguru from the internet thinks that he would have been just as valuable eating oranges on the touch line for long stretches of the match, while the guardian, writing a column on the same match, called his performance "impressive."

I get it. Groupthink can run wild on a sports message board. It's just the nature of these things.

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This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:10 pm to
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Eddie Johnson was a better athlete in his youth, with a worse touch, a lack of tactical understanding, and an insufferable attitude problem. Zardes just has a bad touch in comparison.


I always thought that Eddie had a decent touch, but if he had to take more than two or three touches, he'd enter some weird infinite loop that wouldn't end until he dribbled out of bounds. Gyasi can at least make his god damn mind up in similar situations.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:10 pm to
All you have to do is watch the game against Costa Rica. He was our worst player.
Posted by wm72
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 6:30 pm to
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Can anybody offer up if this is correctable by him? Maybe some EURO time and he gets that aspect of his game righted?


It's not likely to change much at his age. However, if he does get in a good run of form then confidence can certainly help.

Playing/practicing against top competition in Europe absolutely sharpens players' games in so many ways.

However, controlling the ball smoothly with the first touch is bit more of a technique that's learned and reinforced at early ages.



Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:57 pm to
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Some person made a Zardes first touch compilation, which I have to admit makes him look near retarded.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:58 pm to
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which I have to admit makes him look near retarded.

Posted by Broski
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:59 pm to
So much groupthink in that video
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

So much groupthink on this board


FIFY
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:03 am to
That video is so damning... And so current
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:14 am to
Stubear just brought up the bad touch video on Copa Tonight

And he thinks Zusi should start over Zardes for the next game, but it's just groupthink right??
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83371 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:23 am to
What's really sad about that video is that it's parameters are set for just the last 4 games in which Zardes put on a USMNT kit.

It'd be one thing if that video encompassed his entire career, because if you dig real deep into the annals of career highlights, you could put together a similar video for Messi, Ronaldinho, etc. But it's pretty damning when that video was put together within two months and four games of raw footage.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:40 am to
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Zusi


He would not be an improvement. Zardes provides more to this team, even with his many faults, than Zusi would. If Jurgen were to bench Zardes, Zusi shouldn't even be in the conversation to replace him IMO. He's not nearly dynamic enough. We have better options. I'm dying to see Nagbe and Pulisic get more minutes.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 6/10/16 at 6:24 am to
I'd rather start Finlay at RW.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 6:25 am
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