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Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:01 pm to pvilleguru
It is definitely group think.
Go back and reread the last game thread. It's totally absurd the way this board was piling on Zardes.
Go back and reread the last game thread. It's totally absurd the way this board was piling on Zardes.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:04 pm to Tennessee Jed
Can anybody offer up if this is correctable by him? Maybe some EURO time and he gets that aspect of his game righted?
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:31 pm to Tennessee Jed
having him on the wing is the biggest issue
i think his defensive cover for yed was weak and i'd rather have bedoya out wide starting and then zardes as a sub when the defense is tired. or just put him up top in a 4-4-2 with dempsey so dempsey can roam and zardes is a threat to break out against an over-extended D
i get that he provides space and workrate, but bedoya provides workrate and a slightly less threat of speed (but on the flip side, his cover allows our most explosive space-creater in yedlin to move up)
playing out wide also requires that he dribble the ball more to create an attacking threat, b/c he's further away from the goal. his touch issues will be far less noticeable if he's waiting to impose his speed on a defense creating holes
i think his defensive cover for yed was weak and i'd rather have bedoya out wide starting and then zardes as a sub when the defense is tired. or just put him up top in a 4-4-2 with dempsey so dempsey can roam and zardes is a threat to break out against an over-extended D
i get that he provides space and workrate, but bedoya provides workrate and a slightly less threat of speed (but on the flip side, his cover allows our most explosive space-creater in yedlin to move up)
playing out wide also requires that he dribble the ball more to create an attacking threat, b/c he's further away from the goal. his touch issues will be far less noticeable if he's waiting to impose his speed on a defense creating holes
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:38 pm to Tennessee Jed
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It's totally absurd the way this board was piling on Zardes
If it's well deserved, it isn't groupthink. It's just the truth.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
I think Bedoya just spent an entire season at Nantes playing as a defensively minded central midfielder, and we're only a few days out from him playing an outstanding game in that role for the US. I also think he's set up in the correct position, and that moving him anywhere else would be doing him a serious disservice.
Is he capable of playing out wide, of course he is.
All of that to say, this place would be awfully boring, if we all agreed with each other.
Is he capable of playing out wide, of course he is.
All of that to say, this place would be awfully boring, if we all agreed with each other.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:42 pm to pvilleguru
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If it's well deserved, it isn't groupthink. It's just the truth.
Ok. Get back to me when it's well deserved, I guess.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 3:48 pm to Tennessee Jed
pvilleguru from the internet thinks that he would have been just as valuable eating oranges on the touch line for long stretches of the match, while the guardian, writing a column on the same match, called his performance "impressive."
I get it. Groupthink can run wild on a sports message board. It's just the nature of these things.
LINK
I get it. Groupthink can run wild on a sports message board. It's just the nature of these things.
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This post was edited on 6/9/16 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:10 pm to thenry712
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Eddie Johnson was a better athlete in his youth, with a worse touch, a lack of tactical understanding, and an insufferable attitude problem. Zardes just has a bad touch in comparison.
I always thought that Eddie had a decent touch, but if he had to take more than two or three touches, he'd enter some weird infinite loop that wouldn't end until he dribbled out of bounds. Gyasi can at least make his god damn mind up in similar situations.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 4:10 pm to Tennessee Jed
All you have to do is watch the game against Costa Rica. He was our worst player.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 6:30 pm to JohnZeroQ
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Can anybody offer up if this is correctable by him? Maybe some EURO time and he gets that aspect of his game righted?
It's not likely to change much at his age. However, if he does get in a good run of form then confidence can certainly help.
Playing/practicing against top competition in Europe absolutely sharpens players' games in so many ways.
However, controlling the ball smoothly with the first touch is bit more of a technique that's learned and reinforced at early ages.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 7:58 pm to crazy4lsu
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which I have to admit makes him look near retarded.
Posted on 6/9/16 at 8:59 pm to crazy4lsu
So much groupthink in that video
Posted on 6/9/16 at 11:46 pm to Broski
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So much groupthink on this board
FIFY
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:03 am to SlowFlowPro
That video is so damning... And so current
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:14 am to lynxcat
Stubear just brought up the bad touch video on Copa Tonight
And he thinks Zusi should start over Zardes for the next game, but it's just groupthink right??
And he thinks Zusi should start over Zardes for the next game, but it's just groupthink right??
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:23 am to BCLA
What's really sad about that video is that it's parameters are set for just the last 4 games in which Zardes put on a USMNT kit.
It'd be one thing if that video encompassed his entire career, because if you dig real deep into the annals of career highlights, you could put together a similar video for Messi, Ronaldinho, etc. But it's pretty damning when that video was put together within two months and four games of raw footage.
It'd be one thing if that video encompassed his entire career, because if you dig real deep into the annals of career highlights, you could put together a similar video for Messi, Ronaldinho, etc. But it's pretty damning when that video was put together within two months and four games of raw footage.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 12:40 am to BCLA
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Zusi
He would not be an improvement. Zardes provides more to this team, even with his many faults, than Zusi would. If Jurgen were to bench Zardes, Zusi shouldn't even be in the conversation to replace him IMO. He's not nearly dynamic enough. We have better options. I'm dying to see Nagbe and Pulisic get more minutes.
Posted on 6/10/16 at 6:24 am to mynamebowl
I'd rather start Finlay at RW.
This post was edited on 6/10/16 at 6:25 am
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