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re: What Soccer Star Comes Close to Pele's Greatness?

Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:22 pm to
Posted by theOG
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:22 pm to
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Speaking of Neymar, when do you think he'll make the jump to Europe?


hopefully never. i see enough diving out of ashley young, i can't imagine see that little featherweight in europe.
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:24 pm to
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Pele is overrated.


This is comical. He is the best ever so how that can be considered overrated I am not sure. People confuse the difference in talent level today between Europe and South America with the difference back in Pele's day. People disregard the quality of South American soccer in Pele's day out of sheer ignorance. Check out how many players from the 1970 World Cup played in Europe. Virtually none and they steam rolled all those frickers who played in Europe.
Posted by PokerPlayingTiger
Member since Jan 2007
2745 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:26 pm to
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hopefully never. i see enough diving out of ashley young, i can't imagine see that little featherweight in europe.



Believe it or not he is improving in this regard. Still has a ways to go but he is getting tougher. The Santos team learned a lot getting drilled by Barcelona last year. He will definitely have to beef up some but I think he will succeed.

IMO what he really needs to learn is to tone down his malicious dribbling because they will hunt him down for it in Europe. Then again, that youthful exuberance to do the incredible is what makes him great.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:28 pm to
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:01 pm to
My friend's father is an old timer, and every soccer conversation ends in Pele

He never mentions goals. He always talks about how brilliant Pele was with the ball at his feet. Pele might not be the best player of all time, but he is probably deserving of being in the conversation,
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118622 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:05 pm to
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1970 World Cup


Brazilian team was the best ever. I can't see how it is debateable.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:08 pm to
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Brazilian team was the best ever. I can't see how it is debateable.

glass, we're talking about Pelé.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69605 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:19 pm to
Zidane>Maradona
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:25 pm to

Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
69605 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:30 pm to
No, I'm serious. And its subjective so don't get pissy when I disagree.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:33 pm to
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No, I'm serious.
OK, noted.
quote:

don't get pissy when I disagree.

thought you were trolling. thought you'd appreciate the green face. lighten up, francis.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:34 pm to
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Zidane>Maradona


Maradona
Messi
Pele
Zidane
Cruyff
Jinky
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:36 pm to
quote:



Believe it or not he is improving in this regard. Still has a ways to go but he is getting tougher. The Santos team learned a lot getting drilled by Barcelona last year. He will definitely have to beef up some but I think he will succeed.

IMO what he really needs to learn is to tone down his malicious dribbling because they will hunt him down for it in Europe. Then again, that youthful exuberance to do the incredible is what makes him great.





He couldn't do it on a wet Wednesday night in Stoke. I'm sure Shawcross is praying for Neymar to go to ManU or City. He hasn't ended a career lately.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Jinky
TNBhoy,
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39477 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:41 pm to
Aguero is the next maradona and will be better than him and Messi

This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:43 pm to
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Aguero is the next maradona and will be better than him and Messi

Cap, you'd better make sure Sergio and his wife take care of Mara's grandkid.

Here ya go:
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 10:47 pm
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118622 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:47 pm to
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glass, we're talking about Pelé.


That is why he isn't the greatest. He was on the best International team ever. Zidane was more influential than Pele was on a match. Even Maradona probably was. Cruyf for certain.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:47 pm to
At his best, Zidane was at a Ronaldinho level of unplayability

There are just no answers
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 10:48 pm
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:48 pm to
Cash is a thenry alter, that thenry didn't know about.









Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 5/10/12 at 10:49 pm to
I thought you were getting off on a tangent.

Sorry, sputtering synapses.
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