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re: What Soccer Star Comes Close to Pele's Greatness?
Posted on 5/10/12 at 6:06 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
Posted on 5/10/12 at 6:06 pm to Jumbeauxlaya
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But was Europe considered to be as superior then as it is now?
I would say not. Plus European and South American teams would play against each other on a regular basis in Pele's era. This rarely happens today, relatively speaking.
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Posted on 5/10/12 at 6:08 pm to ohiovol
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Not since Maradona
He's great, but he's overrated. He's nowhere near the discussion for greatest player ever if not for 2 goals against England in the 1986 world cup. One which was incredible, and one which he scored with his hand.
Don't get me wrong, Maradona was a phenomenal player. I just don't believe he was at Pele's level.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 6:13 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
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Don't get me wrong, Maradona was a phenomenal player
No doubt. I'd put Zidane and Cruyf above him.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 6:15 pm to glassman
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No doubt. I'd put Zidane and Cruyf above him.
I tend to agree with you, especially in regards to Zidane. I would likely put Messi ahead of him as well.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:18 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
Now:
Maradona
Pele
Messi
Cruyff
Zidane
We're possibly only months away from:
Maradona
Messi
Pele
Cruyff
Zidane
Eventually it will be:
Messi
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff
Zidane
Damn, I look like a Messitard. I'm not, I just respect the hell out of him, and his style of play.
Messi's won 2 or 3 CLs? 3.
Maradona is just as much a douche as Pele IMO, but still, Maradona>Pele. Maradona has carried a national side on his back, Pele simply has been one of the featured players in one (Garrincha>Pele IMO, hehe).
Maradona
Pele
Messi
Cruyff
Zidane
We're possibly only months away from:
Maradona
Messi
Pele
Cruyff
Zidane
Eventually it will be:
Messi
Maradona
Pele
Cruyff
Zidane
Damn, I look like a Messitard. I'm not, I just respect the hell out of him, and his style of play.
Messi's won 2 or 3 CLs? 3.
Maradona is just as much a douche as Pele IMO, but still, Maradona>Pele. Maradona has carried a national side on his back, Pele simply has been one of the featured players in one (Garrincha>Pele IMO, hehe).
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:22 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
Pele didn't play against catenaccio, it's like comparing pistol Pete to Lebrun.
Mara is significantly better.
Mara is significantly better.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:36 pm to j1897
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Pele didn't play against catenaccio
another very good point.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:40 pm to j1897
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Pele didn't play against catenaccio, it's like comparing pistol Pete to Lebrun.
Mara is significantly better.
Pele might not have played in Europe, but his Santos teams played many games over the years against top notch European competition. It is almost cute how folks want to compare Maradona to Pele. If you have ever watched LOTS of tapes of the 2 then you would know there is absolutely no comparison. Maradona simply benefits from playing more recently and so Pele's greatness is not as fresh on people's minds. The interesting thing is that you can compare tapes to see Pele is superior or you could compare stats. Take your pick.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:41 pm to Dandy Lion
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Pele simply has been one of the featured players in one (Garrincha>Pele IMO, hehe).
A criticism also relevant to "Messi's Barcelona"
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:44 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
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Pele might not have played in Europe, but his Santos teams played many games over the years against top notch European competition. It is almost cute how folks want to compare Maradona to Pele. If you have ever watched LOTS of tapes of the 2 then you would know there is absolutely no comparison. Maradona simply benefits from playing more recently and so Pele's greatness is not as fresh on people's minds. The interesting thing is that you can compare tapes to see Pele is superior or you could compare stats. Take your pick.
Possibly, but if we got that route, then we've got to drag DiStefano and Beckenbauer into the conversation.
Week in, week out, for years, Maradona saw tougher D than did Pele.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:45 pm to Dandy Lion
Is any player better as one man team than Eusebio?
Don't know.
Don't know.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:46 pm to glassman
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Eusebio
beast.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:56 pm to Dandy Lion
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Week in, week out, for years, Maradona saw tougher D than did Pele.
And Maradona's success is a fraction of Pele's.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 7:57 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
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And Maradona's success is a fraction of Pele's.
Maradona played for Napoli.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:18 pm to TN Bhoy
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Maradona played for Sevilla, Barcelona and Napoli.
This post was edited on 5/10/12 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:21 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
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And Maradona's success is a fraction of Pele's.
are you serious?
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:43 pm to Dandy Lion
Posted on 5/10/12 at 8:45 pm to PokerPlayingTiger
BTW, this argument is fruitless because it is impossible to prove either way. I believe Pele is the greatest soccer player ever and I furthermore believe that Maradona is not even #2. You obviously believe differently.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:05 pm to Hugo Stiglitz
Pele is overrated. He played against wayyy subpar competition. I rank Eusebio, Maradona, Messi, and Zidane above him. Pele may have been the best, but I can't put him above those guys because of the competition level. Keep in mind the definition of overrated please.
Posted on 5/10/12 at 9:16 pm to LSUgators
I agree. Maradona and Pele are almost equal in my mind, only because Maradona played against better club competition.
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