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What is a foul in soccer?

Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:11 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:11 pm
This is my second season watching the premier league and I’ve yet to figure out what’s allowed and what isn’t.

It seems any contact to the legs when a player doesn’t hit the ball first is a penalty. That seems obvious. But when it comes to upper body contact, it almost seems like anything goes. I’ve seen a guy two hand push a player off the ball. Upper body collisions even, with no call.

Coming from a basketball background, I’m having trouble figuring out what’s allowed and what isn’t since the amount of contact allowed between the two sports is totally different. Can anyone give me a little crash course?
This post was edited on 9/27/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:24 pm to
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
11733 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:24 pm to
My dad had trouble with this when I played as well.

In truth, there’s a lot of gray area with most of the deciding factor boiling down to the player not using excessive force. Generally, any barge to the back is a foul with shoulder-to-shoulder contact being allowed.
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13071 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 3:47 pm to
Anytime a player kicks or makes contact with another and doesn't make clean contact with the ball. Yellow is clear excessive force/stopping a counter attack. Red is dangerous play/malicious contact/stopping a clear and obvious goal scoring opportunity.
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
1257 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 5:35 pm to
pulling the shirt or a part of the body to slow down an opposing player's run, especially in the open, seems to be consistently yellow in most leagues.
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13071 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:18 pm to
Yeah stopping a counter or run
Posted by OldmanBeasley
Charlotte
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 7:44 pm to
You’ll know it when you see it.
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 9/27/23 at 9:16 pm to
quote:

You’ll know it when you see it.


Came here to say this
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
22296 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 10:08 pm to
it depends on who you're supporting in the match..
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23894 posts
Posted on 9/27/23 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

You’ll know it when you see it.


it’s truly second nature. to the OP, just keep watching, in 10 years you’ll be having an internal conversation with the referee all 90
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27319 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 6:22 am to
I watched a little more intently today. From what I’ve gathered, it seems if you’re on the ball, they allow defenders to be very physical as it’s up to you to use your body to maintain control and deal with the contact. It’s fair game.

But when there is a play developing and a defender does something physical to prevent your movement as a player rather than playing the ball, it seems that’s awarded a penalty.

It’s just difficult because when I think I’m kind of getting it down, something that I think was a foul is a play on and something I think is a play on is whistled a foul. And I don’t know if those are just questionable calls/no calls or if I still don’t quite grasp the rules.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 6:24 am
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23894 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 10:34 am to
it's somewhat akin to basketball too though, where a LOT of subjectivity is required of the referee
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68761 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 11:38 am to
Not to be a D, but to help you out when discussing this in public. It's a foul. A foul in the box is a penalty.

Just dont want you shouting penalty if someone gets tackled at midfield.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27319 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 1:39 pm to
You’re right. And I know that. The terminology isn’t second nature to me yet even though I know the difference. Thanks for the heads up because I didn’t even realize I said penalty.
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
5540 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 1:46 pm to
quote:

But when it comes to upper body contact, it almost seems like anything goes.



Check out the 109 minute of the 2006 FIFA World Cup final for an example of what is not allowed.
(if someone could post a gif to help that would be great. I’m computer illiterate)
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30863 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 4:34 pm to
Unfortunately 90% of the time in professional soccer it's if one guys falls down and acts hurts.
This post was edited on 9/28/23 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Warrior Court
Atlanta
Member since Apr 2022
1257 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by lsugorilla
PNW
Member since Sep 2009
5540 posts
Posted on 9/28/23 at 9:59 pm to
Warrior Court. Thank you.

Classic example of a foul.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19512 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:17 am to
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You’ll know it when you see it.


*most of the time

Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3916 posts
Posted on 9/29/23 at 9:56 am to
As a certified referee, the best advice I can give you is to remember my favorite 6 words in the Laws of the Game- “In the opinion of the referee”…

IOW, a foul is whatever the referee decides it is.
This post was edited on 9/29/23 at 9:58 am
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