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What are the realistic scenarios for the US to advance to the knockout stage?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:25 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:25 am
Beat Ghana and tie either Germany or Portugal?
It seems like we would need at minimum 4 points in the Group to advance.
It seems like we would need at minimum 4 points in the Group to advance.
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Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:29 am to TabledTiger
Win all the games.
But otherwise, I really think we'd need to beat Ghana and tie both. Can we beat Ghana by a bigger score line than Portugal?
But otherwise, I really think we'd need to beat Ghana and tie both. Can we beat Ghana by a bigger score line than Portugal?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:30 am to TabledTiger
Beat Ghana, draw Portugal, draw/lose to Germany. Hope Germany beats both Portugal and Ghana. Advance with 4 or 5 points, possibly on GD.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:31 am to TabledTiger
We will likely be up against Portugal for the second spot, so we absolutely have to get a result against them. This is our most-likely path through:
USA defeats Ghana
Germany defeats Portugal
USA ties Portugal
Germany Defeats Ghana (Germany through, Ghana eliminated)
Germany ties/defeats USA
Portugal defeats Ghana
*If we lose to Germany in this scenario, we would have to have goal difference on Portugal.
USA defeats Ghana
Germany defeats Portugal
USA ties Portugal
Germany Defeats Ghana (Germany through, Ghana eliminated)
Germany ties/defeats USA
Portugal defeats Ghana
*If we lose to Germany in this scenario, we would have to have goal difference on Portugal.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:32 am to NOTORlOUSD
Hopefully Ghana can draw against Portugal.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:32 am to pvilleguru
We will win all three by multiple goals.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:34 am to TabledTiger
--- US Ghana Port Germ
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US----x--- d--- w--- d
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Ghana l--- x--- l--- l
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Port--- d--- w--- x--- l
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Germ d--- w--- w--- x
1st Germany - 6 pts
2nd USA - 5 pts
3rd Port - 4 pts
4th Ghana - 0 pts
(Yea, I'm that bored at work I made a chart, and it came out looking like arse hole)
-----------------------------
US----x--- d--- w--- d
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Ghana l--- x--- l--- l
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Port--- d--- w--- x--- l
------------------------------
Germ d--- w--- w--- x
1st Germany - 6 pts
2nd USA - 5 pts
3rd Port - 4 pts
4th Ghana - 0 pts
(Yea, I'm that bored at work I made a chart, and it came out looking like arse hole)
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 11:25 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:35 am to pvilleguru
Yeah I don't see Ghana losing all 3 games.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:39 am to cwil177
We have to beat Ghana. Then get results against Portugal and Germany. It can be done, but it will be super hard.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:44 am to cwil177
Ghana is the game that matters.
Fail to win that game, and you can turn out the lights and start the bus.
The good news is that given Australia's group - it's going to be really hard for us to finish last overall like in 1998. Costa Rica saved our arse in from it in 2006.
That shite doesn't run in eight year cycles, does it?
Fail to win that game, and you can turn out the lights and start the bus.
The good news is that given Australia's group - it's going to be really hard for us to finish last overall like in 1998. Costa Rica saved our arse in from it in 2006.
That shite doesn't run in eight year cycles, does it?
Posted on 5/14/14 at 10:50 am to Sheep
Poor socceroos.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:03 am to FunkasaurusReb
quote:
US Port Ghana Germ
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US - d w d
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Port d - w l
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Ghana l l - l
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Germ d w w -
Uh... Portugal and US play each other in the second game. We can't both win that game
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:07 am to Sheep
Sadly, so far it does. We are still looking to break our Awesome-Suck alternation that's been going on since before the internet
1990 - First round exit
1994 - Sweet Sixteen
1998 - First round exit
2002 - Elite Eight
2006 - First round exit
2010 - Sweet Sixteen
2014 - ????
1990 - First round exit
1994 - Sweet Sixteen
1998 - First round exit
2002 - Elite Eight
2006 - First round exit
2010 - Sweet Sixteen
2014 - ????
This post was edited on 5/14/14 at 11:08 am
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:15 am to cwil177
Yea, I messed up on my chart. the top row was going to be US PORT GHANA GERM and going down the side was US PORT GHANA GERM. There was not proper spacing so the - which would indicate no game is not lined up. also as you pointed out I messed up the order.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:27 am to cwil177
quote:
cwil177
It's a 4x4 table where the first column is each teams result against USA, second Portugal, etc. It's not the results for each team in order played
Posted on 5/14/14 at 11:31 am to Wait For It...
ghana and portugal get malaria
Posted on 5/14/14 at 12:00 pm to stlslick
We beat Ghana, that's a must. Then draw Portugal, also basically a must. If we do that a lot of scenarios can play out in our favor. A draw against Germany would then give us 5 points, which almost always gets you through to the second round. We could lose a close game, 1-0, to Germany and advance on goal differential if they beat the other teams by more than one goal. Or we could hope that Ghana loses to us and Germany but then draws or beats Portugal, leaving both teams below 4 points.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 2:20 pm to tigerfan88
One big thing that will help us - hope Ghana and Portugal draw eachother and lose to Germany.
Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:26 pm to Sheep
plus we tied italy in 2006 so that was chill.
fun trivia: name the 2 teams to score against italy in the '06 world cup
fun trivia: name the 2 teams to score against italy in the '06 world cup
Posted on 5/14/14 at 4:28 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
US and France. But ours was an OG so not sure if that counts.
More trivia:
Which team went undefeated at the 2010 WC?
More trivia:
Which team went undefeated at the 2010 WC?
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