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Posted on 12/10/22 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/10/22 at 10:58 am
How big were the upsets of Brazil and Portugal? Is there a college football equivalent?
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Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:00 am to Oilfieldbiology
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How big were the upsets of Brazil and Portugal? Is there a college football equivalent?
Was Croatia/Brazil all that surprising? Croatia was a finalist in 2018.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:01 am to Oilfieldbiology
I mean, they're all professionals. Croatia was a finalist last world cup, and Morocco has many players that play for top flight clubs.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:01 am to VADawg
I know nothing of soccer. That’s why I was asking.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:01 am to West Palm Tiger561
So these weren’t upsets then?
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:04 am to Oilfieldbiology
They’re like a 10-14 point dog in football winning upsets. Not a 35 point dog winning upsets.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:05 am to VADawg
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Was Croatia/Brazil all that surprising? Croatia was a finalist in 2018.
From a gambling standpoint? Yes
Brazil was -650 to advance
Croatia +375
To Advance
Morocco +240
Portugal -333
Now to win,
Morocco was +450
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 11:09 am
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:07 am to Oilfieldbiology
Croatia over Brazil is little more of an upset than LSU beating Bama this year
Morocco winning is like 9 seed mid major beating a 2 seed in the Elite 8
Morocco winning is like 9 seed mid major beating a 2 seed in the Elite 8
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:07 am to Oilfieldbiology
Brazil was major to me. They are the best team in the tournament.
Morroco wasn't really an upset to me. I had them winning. Spain was the team that was a bad matchup for them and they survived that. They can beat France and England also.
Morroco wasn't really an upset to me. I had them winning. Spain was the team that was a bad matchup for them and they survived that. They can beat France and England also.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:17 am to dj30
Never have I thought that Brazil were the best, not complete enough for me. They haven't done shite for 20 years now by their standard and are on trajectory to be Tennessee.
Morocco better rest up because if they end up having to resort to catenaccio against England and especially France it's over.
Morocco better rest up because if they end up having to resort to catenaccio against England and especially France it's over.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:24 am to cattus
Brazil’s strengths and wins were always based on their midfields being dominant talent wise. Their 9’s were always crazy to good, but it was the midfield that separated them and gave them consistency.
They are mediocre talent-wise compared to that era at the midfield and it shows, because guys like Neymar are having to do way too much creating instead of finishing in live play.
They are mediocre talent-wise compared to that era at the midfield and it shows, because guys like Neymar are having to do way too much creating instead of finishing in live play.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 11:25 am to Oilfieldbiology
Brazil maybe. But Portugal always felt like a tweener for me. Them losing to Morocco was not shocking.
This post was edited on 12/10/22 at 11:33 am
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:35 pm to Oilfieldbiology
The best analogy for Croatia is Butler in the basketball tournament in 2011. Had a surprise run to the final in the previous tournament as a 5 seed, lost one of their best scorers, and then somehow made an even more improbable run as an 8 seed the next time.
Morocco, we're talking a Mid Major 11 seed to the Final Four situation. George Mason-esque.
Morocco, we're talking a Mid Major 11 seed to the Final Four situation. George Mason-esque.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 4:54 pm to cattus
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Never have I thought that Brazil were the best, not complete enough for me. They haven't done shite for 20 years now by their standard and are on trajectory to be Tennessee.
International soccer isn’t at all like building a college football program. It really just has to do with A: How talented your players are and B: how they play together in the system of the head coach. C: The chemistry the players have on the pitch is a big factor.
Posted on 12/10/22 at 6:48 pm to Oilfieldbiology
The odds were in Brazil and Portugal favor.
But Morocco has let in one own goal the entire tournament. So I bet on them advancing.
But Morocco has let in one own goal the entire tournament. So I bet on them advancing.
Posted on 12/11/22 at 12:15 pm to patchesohoulihan_007
I have been passionately following both sports for nearly 5 decades and understand them. Don't extract to much from my comment, it was tongue & cheek from the OPs request.
Morocco remind me of that gritty 2004 Greek team but more fun to watch. I'm glad they get the extra day to recover, hope they can pull out a result against France.
Morocco remind me of that gritty 2004 Greek team but more fun to watch. I'm glad they get the extra day to recover, hope they can pull out a result against France.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:55 am to VADawg
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Was Croatia/Brazil all that surprising? Croatia was a finalist in 2018.
This for sure should be taken into consideration, but keep in mind that the WC is every four years. This Croatia team is very different from the one who made the final.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:55 am to cattus
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but more fun to watch
That Greece run was amazing, but good lord they were terrible to watch.
Posted on 12/13/22 at 8:56 am to patchesohoulihan_007
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The chemistry the players have on the pitch is a big factor.
It’s why Germany USUALLY does well. Damn near the entire team is from Bayern
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