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Poch has been an abject failure to this point

Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/10/25 at 8:58 pm
His highlights include getting smoked by Mexico, losing nations league for the first time ever and now is on a 4 match losing streak.

The World Cup is exactly a year away.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8706 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:10 pm to
Lalas was dead on. We hired a name when we really should've hired someone that would bang the drum and generate some excitement with both players and the fans.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6565 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:13 pm to
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His highlights include getting smoked by Mexico, losing nations league for the first time ever and now is on a 4 match losing streak. The World Cup is exactly a year away.


I don’t see any way this can even be argued. Doesn’t even appear we are building towards something.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
8285 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:15 pm to
Only one man right for the job

Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
77182 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

We hired a name when we really should've hired someone that would bang the drum and generate some excitement with both players and the fans.


The fanbase enabled this. The snobby soccer culture that always thinks accent = good coach got its way.

SCH is a perfect representation of that as he continues to refer to the sport as football while living in America and posting on a sub forum of an LSU message board.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
77182 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:20 pm to
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Only one man right for the job



So he can use Gregg tactics and lose in the Gold Cup?
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6565 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:24 pm to
Gregg had to go.

I don’t think a single player has so far looked better for Poch. That’s pretty damning. Because greggs system was definition of being forced into what you may not do well. So Poch not being able to find even one player to build anything around is horrid.

Frankly it’s just not even fun to watch.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
77182 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:29 pm to
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Gregg had to go.



Yep because I think no coach should get a second cycle short of winning a World Cup. But I also think a big piece missing with Poch is that players don't seem to care under him. I'll give Gregg credit in that regard, once we got back from COVID he really seemed to restore the importance of playing for the crest and dudes seemed to actually enjoy coming to camp and that translated on the field with how we bossed Mexico around from 2021-2022.

Go back and watch the passion we played with in the 2021 Nations League Final and then how a completely different team with a bunch of MLS guys played against that same Mexico team a month later in the Gold Cup.

What the frick happened to that passion?

We don't have the talent to play without that passion and expect to get consistent good results.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
8285 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:32 pm to
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So he can use Gregg tactics and lose in the Gold Cup?


Vibes man, vibes.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
12652 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:40 pm to
Somebody needs to go bump the hiring threads to see some receipts.

I was hopeful, but Poch really hasn’t been a good coach since 2017/18. And even then you could argue he had a prime Kane, Alderweireld/Vertonghen, Eriksen, and Demebele.
Posted by Tigerstark
Parts unknown
Member since Aug 2011
6565 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Go back and watch the passion we played with in the 2021 Nations League Final and then how a completely different team with a bunch of MLS guys played against that same Mexico team a month later in the Gold Cup.


I don’t think we are confident enough in what we are doing to even remotely show passion. May not any way but it’s not possible currently.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
8529 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:47 pm to
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Somebody needs to go bump the hiring threads to see some receipts.


I was stoked because I knew the USSF would make some BS hire and piss everyone off. So the fact that we actually went out and got someone with a pedigree was a breath of fresh air.

Now I'm just sad. Whatever Poch needs we don't have, or vice versa. The translation ain't translating.
Posted by Alyosha
Member since Nov 2020
8285 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:50 pm to
Don’t forget Lamela lol
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
77182 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:51 pm to
quote:

Whatever Poch needs we don't have, or vice versa.


Nah, I'm not playing that card with Poch.

What he has to work with is no different than what any past USMNT coach has had and, through his first 10 matches, he has a worse record than Gregg, Jurgen, Bob and Bruce.
Posted by BlackCoffeeKid
Member since Mar 2016
12652 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 9:51 pm to
With all this being said, the international game can be a fickle one.

We’ve all seen England look like world beaters in qualifying and then completely crash.
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8706 posts
Posted on 6/10/25 at 11:31 pm to
Can we just get Emma to take over the men's team too? At least she appears to give a shite and apparently has a strategic plan and vision.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29201 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 4:18 am to
Frankly it’s always felt a bit like Poch just has a very poor understanding of our pool.

Arfsten is not a left back, he’s a wingback converted from forward/winger who has few defensive responsibilities for Columbus. Tolkin is a better player and has proved he belongs in the Bundesliga and is a natural LB. Johnny is more of a defensive mid than he’s asked to be for the US. Paxten Aaronson is not a winger. Brian White is a forward that feasts on good service with balls into the box and our ability to do that has been abysmal and in fact shockingly worse than under GGG.

You can’t tell me that Scally (or Marlon Fossey) isn’t better than Harriel, Tessmann isn’t worthy of a spot on this roster, and Sargent is worse than all three of the forwards who played last night. Also he called up Sean Zawadski. Why. We have zero wingers. Where are Griffin Yow and Brian Gutierrez?

Last night seemed like a lost opportunity to throw a decent B team lineup out against a good euro team, even with the subpar starting roster.

Some frick
Wright - Tillman - Luna
LDLT - Johnny
Tolkin - Robinson/Ream - Richards - Freeman
Freese
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126296 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:09 am to
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The fanbase enabled this. The snobby soccer culture that always thinks accent = good coach got its way. SCH is a perfect representation of that as he continues to refer to the sport as football while living in America and posting on a sub forum of an LSU message board.


You are such a little twat

So about American players and pundits men and women who call it football
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29201 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:26 am to
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little twat

Not really beating the accusations here homie
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
29201 posts
Posted on 6/11/25 at 6:33 am to
Poch accepts blame for the result yesterday
thread

quote:

Having said before the game (indeed, before both games) what he was going to do with lineup rotation, Mauricio Pochettino says it did not work:

"First of all, I think it of course is our responsibility and my responsibility, the decision of the choice of the starting XI."
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