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re: Official US vs Canada thread (airing on FSC)
Posted on 6/7/11 at 12:42 pm to inelishaitrust
Posted on 6/7/11 at 12:42 pm to inelishaitrust
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Me and stewie have watched him play in MLS for a year in a half. The guy is the best distributor out of the back that the league has seen in a couple of years.
If you can catch the hyperbole train before it leaves the station, he's not even the best distributor out of the back ON HIS OWN TEAM.
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Posted on 6/7/11 at 12:43 pm to Sheep
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If you can catch the hyperbole train before it leaves the station, he's not even the best distributor out of the back ON HIS OWN TEAM.
Yeah Rafa Marquez is world-class in that department. Ream is still good though, especially at his age.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 12:43 pm to Sheep
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he's not even the best distributor out of the back ON HIS OWN TEAM.
Statistically, and in actuality he is.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 12:46 pm to inelishaitrust
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Statistically, and in actuality he is.
Oh, awesome. Post the link for the stats, I'd love to see them.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 12:49 pm to crazy4lsu
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Thomas Dooley.
And to be fair, he was a midfielder in the Bundesliga, who the US always played at defense because:
A. We had no other options, and B. the only thing our midfield was required to do in the 90s was run up and down the field.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:00 pm to Sheep
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Oh, awesome. Post the link for the stats, I'd love to see them.
I can't find a story that I saw on MLS back in april. But, I do have Castrol Index stats.
Rafa Marquez is in 30th place in the league with an 8.46
Tim Ream is in 42nd with an 8.24
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:07 pm to inelishaitrust
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I can't find a story that I saw on MLS back in april. But, I do have Castrol Index stats.
Do you mean the OPTA twitter stat?
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New York Red Bulls' Tim Ream has misplaced just 13 of his 163 passes in MLS in 2011 & has the best passing accuracy (91.3%).
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Rafa Marquez is in 30th place in the league with an 8.46
Tim Ream is in 42nd with an 8.24
Interesting. Whatever Ream's stats are, Marquez comes in with the reputation as a world-class distributor from his Barca days when he would start attacks. His cross-field balls in those days were incredible. If Ream can outperform him in that respect, then that will be impressive indeed.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:13 pm to inelishaitrust
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But, I do have Castrol Index stats.
I have their heights and weights, but I don't see how that defines them as a distributor, or is relevant to the topic at hand.
In fact this group of defenders from the Castrol Index could arguably be the worst distributors in MLS...
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10 Ugo Ihemelu FC Dallas
12 Bobby Boswell Houston Dynamo
13 Danny Califf Philadelphia Union
...outside of Marvell Wynne, who has to be the worst distributor in American soccer, from age 8 (boys AND girls) and up.... and he's two spots behind Ream.
So, either this metric doesn't measure one's ability to distribute, or you'd better choose another metric on which to base your argument.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:14 pm to crazy4lsu
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Interesting. Whatever Ream's stats are, Marquez comes in with the reputation as a world-class distributor from his Barca days when he would start attacks. His cross-field balls in those days were incredible. If Ream can outperform him in that respect, then that will be impressive indeed.
I think Ream is as good of a distributor as Rafa. He isn't nearly as good of a marker, though You gotta love the hustle.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:16 pm to crazy4lsu
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Do you mean the OPTA twitter stat?
I need these numbers for my life to be complete.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:17 pm to Sheep
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So, either this metric doesn't measure one's ability to distribute, or you'd better choose another metric on which to base your argument.
This metric demonstrates overall play.
Ugo, Bobby, and Califf are near the top because they make a ton of challenges.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:19 pm to Sheep
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I need these numbers for my life to be complete.
I looked everywhere for them. I couldn't even find OPTA's twitter anymore.
MLS pays Opta, and releases the data they wish to release, I suppose.
The opta website is advertising for the service.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 1:35 pm to inelishaitrust
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MLS pays Opta, and releases the data they wish to release, I suppose.
More than likely, the teams have the option to pay OPTA for the statistics, or use their own statisticians to compile the data.
I'd guess that all of the teams don't subscribe, so OPTA doesn't want to make the info "public."
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:21 pm to Leauxgan
as long as we beat them i'm good regardless of the score. i'm not expecting a rout here
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:27 pm to mrsmiller
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as long as we beat them i'm good regardless of the score.
If we can't score on Canada, we're in some trouble.
They've got an average MLS centerback starting, and he's not the worst player on their back four.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:33 pm to inelishaitrust
Agreed, we SHOULD control the game tonight, and win handily.
A win should never warrant a melt down, but a poor performance is more than enough reason to be pessimistic about the immediate future.
A win should never warrant a melt down, but a poor performance is more than enough reason to be pessimistic about the immediate future.
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:34 pm to inelishaitrust
Their starting right back plays in the 3. Liga in Germany 
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:36 pm to cwil177
frick the canucks is the rallying cry
Posted on 6/7/11 at 2:37 pm to inelishaitrust
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They've got an average MLS centerback starting, and he's not the worst player on their back four.
Hainault is a step above adequate, but that's about it. Don't know anything about the other defenders. Was Paul Stalteri hurt?
Don't know how they'll do the midfield, but if it's Will Johnson - Julian De Guzman - Terry Dunfield - Atiba Hutchinson, with DeRo and Rob Friend up top, and Ali Gerba off the bench... our D better come prepared to work.
Those guys are good enough to put us in a bind, if we're lazy like Saturday.
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