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re: MUST READ: Brian Straus on the USMNT's Many Issues Under Klinsmann

Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:05 pm to
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:05 pm to
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Ultimate Soccer Summit 2013:

Representing soccer journalists:

Ives
Rog Bennett
LSUSOBEAST1
Posted by Ryne Sandberg
Team Am Mart
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:06 pm to
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Again, if the info from WSE is correct and they have never even been to America then absolutely they have no business playing for the USMNT. What makes it even worse is that the only reason they are playing for America is because they realized they weren't good enough to play for Germany. And yes, I know I'm correct.

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Posted by cwil177
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:11 pm to
Randy is a coward and a fool, and these people do not respond to logic.

Sheep:
quote:

I see nothing that says finishing first is qualifying is guaranteed. Certainly, winning a WC group isn't guaranteed. I'd say beating a #1 team in a non-friendly match isn't guaranteed.

It was a response to the poster who said "he can't be worse than Bradley."

The frick he can't.

Finishing second in qualifying, getting stuck in another group of death, and getting bounced out on our arse after the group stage in 2014, is 100% possible, and to claim otherwise is ignorance.

But maybe we'll play "pretty" on the way to doing it, like Portugal does.

There were many faults to Bradley's tenure, and quite a few games that I'd like to "have back", but I think a lot of people might be in for a surprise in the next year or so.



I think we've decided that he is, in fact, worse than Bradley.

ETA: Tweezy thanks for the post. I thought that was cool. Boyd wants to get an American flag tat, and I think Jones got a tat to commemorate playing for the US.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 8:16 pm
Posted by LSUSOBEAST1
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:14 pm to
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There were many faults to Bradley's tenure, and quite a few games that I'd like to "have back", but I think a lot of people might be in for a surprise in the next year or so.


Yea when I went back and read this in that thread I was pretty blown away.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:27 pm to
How has this image not made it's way into the thread yet?

Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:29 pm to
rdw quoted it earlier...
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19697 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:32 pm to
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As someone who REALLY has trouble eating the shite sandwich when I'm not in the wrong.... that's a fricking man's response to the situation

Better man than I.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:32 pm to
Hmm, I re-glanced at the last two pages before posting.. but I was just looking for a big white facebook image.

I tuned out a lot of that american vs non-american crap, must've skimmed over it.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Tweezy
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Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:34 pm to
No problem, it was kind of hard to find how many times each of them had been to america bc reporters aren't exactly lining up to ask them how many times they've ever been to America. But S/O thenry for having the second or third link on google under the search "has Terrance Boyd ever been to America before?"
Was the player who reportedly never been tO America before, tim chandler? I didn't see what WSE posted and im not looking through the thread tO find it.
I really thought it was interesting Jermaine lived here, never knew that. I'm well aware of his deficiencies, but all the hate for jermaine junior around here has kind of made him one of my favorites.

Also all of the military fathers either abandoned at birth or got a divorce fairly soon after they were born. I really don't know how someone could fault a 20 something year old kid raised by a single mother for not having a chance to visit America 17 times a year growing up.
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:36 pm to
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I didn't see what WSE posted and im not looking through the thread tO find it.

I said it a while back in another thread. I think I was referring to Danny Williams.

Found it:

quote:

ussoccer.com: You visited Miami earlier this year in June. Why did you make the trip?

DW: “I wanted to come to the U.S. to discover my dad’s country. I feel more American than German. People over here are very nice and open-minded, which is how I am. So I feel very comfortable. When I left, I knew that I had to come back.”


LINK

That sounds like his trip to Miami was his first.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 8:38 pm
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:37 pm to
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Some bearded guy from the PNW




Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:38 pm to
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Mesut Ozil and Sami Khedira also played.

I wish they were American.
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:38 pm to
Also, I actually disagree with the sentiment that Jozy was an anonymous hater. I've been critical of him in the past, but his response to Jurgy not calling him up recently, his current form this season, and his response to taking racial abuse on the field; have really impressed me. I think he's done a lot of growing up (as expected since he's still a kid) I don't see him pulling a stunt like this
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:40 pm to
Yeah the article I read said his Miami trip was a month or two before his appearance. That's when he dropped the I'm terrified of flying line.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19697 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:40 pm to
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Also, I actually disagree with the sentiment that Jozy was an anonymous hater. I've been critical of him in the past, but his response to Jurgy not calling him up recently, his current form this season, and his response to taking racial abuse on the field; have really impressed me. I think he's done a lot of growing up (as expected since he's still a kid) I don't see him pulling a stunt like this


I think Jozy (and I'd guess Clint as well) give zero fricks about what Klinsmann thinks of their abilities.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:45 pm to
My statement was made based on the information that WSE told me a few weeks ago that a couple of them had never been to the United States until training. I'll have to re-read Tweezy's post to make my final judgement on each player. Stay tuned...

However, I do think that a player should not be able to play on the youth team for one nation and then switch to another unless he moves to the new nation for a certain period of time of at least 2-3 years.

ETA: The only way this period of time can be circumvented is to have something liked this tattooed largely across the chest or back...



This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 8:51 pm
Posted by rdw1690
Member since Mar 2010
6469 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:47 pm to
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rdw quoted it earlier...

And no one cares. God damn randy savage starting shitty arguments and burying pertinent information.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:48 pm to
Hey... in my defense you quoted text and mine was in a big shiny image.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 8:49 pm
Posted by WarSlamEagle
Manchester United Fan
Member since Sep 2011
24611 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:51 pm to
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My statement was made based on the information that WSE told me a few weeks ago that a couple of them had never been to the United States until training.

I remember reading that somewhere. I could be wrong.

However, that wasn't the point of your argument in the first place.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35638 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:52 pm to
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God damn randy savage starting shitty arguments and burying pertinent information.



Back on topic, this guy will be looking for a job very soon...

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