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re: Jozy NOT starting

Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:51 pm to
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:51 pm to
Yeah, but it's a hamstring injury. What if wanting 20-30 minutes turns into 2 minutes because game speed is different than practice? Then we wasted a sub putting him in, and now have to waste another to take him out. I don't see him playing.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:53 pm to
don't want this stuck at the bottom of last page:

quote:

Cameron in for Beckerman, Jozy on bench

#USA XI: Howard, Gonzalez, Bradley, Besler, Beasley, Dempsey, Bedoya, Jones, Zusi, Cameron, Johnson


quote:

Kompany in

#BEL XI: Courtois, Alderweireld, Van Buyten, Kompany, Vertonghen, Witsel, Fellaini, De Bruyne, Mertens, Origi, Hazard
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

quote:


Kompany in

#BEL XI: Courtois, Alderweireld, Van Buyten, Kompany, Vertonghen, Witsel, Fellaini, De Bruyne, Mertens, Origi, Hazard


Thanks!
Posted by bbap
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

was bullshite from the beginning



of course it was. some people on here have obviously never pulled a hamstring.
Posted by WaveHog
Austin, TX
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:55 pm to
no prob.

even bigger news to me is:

quote:

Cameron in for Beckerman,


dude has been strong this tournament, can't figure out why he's not starting.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

of course it was. some people on here have obviously never pulled a hamstring.
HAVE YOU?? RABBLE RABBLE RAAAHHH
Posted by guttata
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:57 pm to
No Beckerman. Hopefully this means US will be attacking
Posted by Captain Fantasy
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

What if wanting 20-30 minutes turns into 2 minutes because game speed is different than practice? Then we wasted a sub putting him in, and now have to waste another to take him out. I don't see him playing.
That would be awful, but it's ultimately Klinsmann's decision. I don't understand how him not starting is causing people to believe that he wont play at all. I get that it we are risking two subs by letting him play, but that doesn't mean him getting the green light is all a smokescreen. There are risks in every sport.

Not saying that you believe he wont play HeadChange.. just a follow-up to my previous post
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

He will come on as a sub. I don't get why people are saying this is so unlikely.
What don't you understand about a hamstring injury? Highly easy to re-injure. His only chance would have been to apply heat prior to stretching, then more heat applied. Then he was going out for warm ups to get his muscles firing and "warm up". At that point, he's at his least vulnerable. Let him do all of that, then sit for over an hour? I don't think so. No chance he subs.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 2:01 pm
Posted by HeadChange
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:00 pm to
Most people think that if he's gonna play, then he'd be starting. That way if he does re-injure himself, you use one sub not two. Hamstrings are tricky little devils.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:02 pm to
quote:

yeah, this leads to believe he might be done for the tourney...


what?? this seems more likely they will use him if/when the US advances..
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Most people think that if he's gonna play, then he'd be starting. That way if he does re-injure himself, you use one sub not two. Hamstrings are tricky little devils.

I get that, but what if you are tied in say the 75th minute with two subs left? You could put him in if you think it will give us a shot at a winning goal, and if you have to yank him than oh well
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
97291 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:05 pm to
unfortunately several times. its the most annoying injury ever because you can walk fine within a week but every time you try to exert yourself physically you tweek it again. basically have to sit a solid month out.

Posted by broeho
Atlanta, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
1815 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:06 pm to
4-3-3... interesting. There will be a lot of pressure on Jones/Bradley/Cameron in midfield.

I think Cameron will be good today, but I'm worried about holding on to possession with 3 guys who are pretty defensive midfielders out there.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41262 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

What don't you understand about a hamstring injury?


i don't know. apparently i'm not a MD AND world class athlete like the rest of this board.

if he's medically cleared, then i'd assume that the training staff and team doctors have said he can go for however long without a high likelihood of re-tearing the thing.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

I get that, but what if you are tied in say the 75th minute with two subs left?
Then you're team has done a hell of job already, honestly. Sub, sure. But don't waste Jozy because that's what he would be: a waste. But if he really is this close to playing, another few days rest could do wonders and he could actually start vs. Arg
Posted by WicKed WayZ
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:09 pm to
People on here are the most pessimistic of any board


Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:09 pm to
Everyone needs to CALM THE frick DOWN!!!

Save your hate for Belgium.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88468 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

its the most annoying injury ever because you can walk fine within a week but every time you try to exert yourself physically you tweek it again. basically have to sit a solid month out.
If not more. It depends on the extent of the tear. I tore mine in college. Not a strain, but a full tear. You could feel the knot. You can even jog after a couple weeks, but the moment you try to "fire" that muscle like a burst, it goes again.
Posted by quail man
New York, NY
Member since May 2010
41262 posts
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:09 pm to
you need to spend more time on the rant.
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