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Jozy Altidore and the MNT

Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:37 pm
Posted by AustinDawg
Austin, Tx
Member since Aug 2015
1436 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:37 pm

Please correct me where I may be wrong, but in watching the USMNT, when Jozy is in, he looks like a really lazy, low-energy forward. He also comes across as thin-skinned and is an easy target for opposing players to target which then gets him yellow/red cards.

That being said, the USMNT offense seems predicated on having a striker that occupies space up top, and even if Altidore is lazy, it seems like we do better when he is in.

Am I wrong about Altidore? Maybe he does a lot that I don't see.

For the record, I think:
Dempsey should be a sub in the last 20 mins,
Bobby Wood has a good work ethic
Wondo should not see the field in word class play.

Do we just have a dearth of forwards?

Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:46 pm to
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Do we just have a dearth of forwards?

Yes, but Jozy is still a good forward for us. He's one of our best passers.

I don't think he's lazy, he just can't play a high energy, always pressing game.

He can have a short temper at times, but how many of our players don't?
This post was edited on 9/6/17 at 10:49 pm
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70901 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 10:52 pm to
If lazy is being on pace to break Donovan/Dempsey USMNT goal scoring record, then yeah, lazy.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
20386 posts
Posted on 9/6/17 at 11:50 pm to
Now that, my friend, is an elaborate & well dressed hook. Well done, chap, well done.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28432 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:17 am to
Jozy is already our third leading scorer of all time. He isn't great at pressing but we don't do a good job of pressing anyway. His set up play, especially his passing, is severely underrated. He's also one of our better set piece takers.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22427 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:16 am to
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He's also one of our better set piece takers.




outta nowhere too.
Posted by WhoDatNC
NC
Member since Dec 2013
11710 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:33 am to
Strikers should score more goals than midfielders.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:36 am to
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Strikers should score more goals than midfielders

Yet a lot of ours don't.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4724 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:37 am to
I know FB comment sections are usually a wasteland, but it always blows my mind how negative people are about him. So many people think he should never play with the USMNT again. I love jozy, even if he is inconsistent and doesn't always put in great effort. He's had some truly dynamic showings and stretches for us and will be huge in the last two games of the hex
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:42 am to
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So many people think he should never play with the USMNT again

Yet they never say who should be starting over him.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4724 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:45 am to
That would require an understanding of soccer and knowledge of the USMNT that they clearly lack. I mean a lot of people also say that of Bradley...
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70901 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:47 am to
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I mean a lot of people also say that of Bradley...


And all he has done is be our 2nd best player since Bruce took over.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 9:48 am to
Against CONCACAF teams, Jozy draws a lot of double teams, freeing up a lot of space for wingers/mids to make runs. I don't think we have another forward that draws that attention.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:00 am to
If you rewatch the CR and Honduras games, I think you'll notice how much it hurt not having Jozy.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 10:01 am
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11706 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:00 am to
I don't have nearly the soccer knowledge a lot on this board have, but I think the pairing of Jozy and Bobby at the top give us our best chance to win. Jozy gives Bobby someone to run off of, and Jozy has good strength and speed.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:03 am to
He's most dangerous when he has people making runs around him, whether that is another forward (Wood/Dempsey), winger (Pulisic/Nagbe), or CM (Pulisic/Nagbe).
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4724 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:04 am to
The most important aspect of the offense now is whether or not CP is in the 10. That's also a huge reason we sucked arse offensively in these last 2 games
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:05 am to
Against Honduras, no one was making any runs in the final 1/3. I don't know if that was because there wasn't room due to Jozy not drawing 2 defenders, poor field conditions, or just too hot.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70901 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:28 am to
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He's most dangerous when he has people making runs around him, whether that is another forward (Wood/Dempsey), winger (Pulisic/Nagbe), or CM (Pulisic/Nagbe).



I've also noticed that he and Yedlin have a good on-field relationship especially when Yedlin is bombing down that right side and putting dangerous balls into the box.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 10:31 am to
NB4 Dalosaqy calls you a racist
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