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re: Its only going to get worse/Offical Ideas for Soccer thread/Crazy Questions

Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by Golfer
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:24 pm to
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I realize that you're coming at it from a very Americanized mentality, but it simply just isn't as important that the game last *exactly* a certain amount of time and no more/less.


How on earth is a sport where games are often tied are scored within 1 goal not have a value on time?
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but the sooner you become a little more open minded the better off you'll be.


Ah, I'm closed minded because I'm thinking about timing in a slightly different manner.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:26 pm to
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How on earth is a sport where games are often tied are scored within 1 goal not have a value on time?


There are no timeouts, dude. The coach can't call a timeout and draw up some hail mary play.

Again, you have 90 some odd minutes to be better than your opponent. The only team that ever bitches about extra time is the losing team. Is that really the side you want to be on?
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:26 pm to
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but it simply just isn't as important that the game last *exactly* a certain amount of time and no more/less.
Right. When I first became a fan, it bothered me that I never knew the exact time a game would end but as I've watched the past 5 or so years, I've come to realize it's not important that it end on the exact second it is supposed to end. Also, I do like that they usually make the defending team clear the ball before ending the half/game.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:27 pm to
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Ah, I'm closed minded because I'm thinking about timing in a slightly different manner.


Yeah basically. You have no idea about the nuance of the game and yet you think you have all the answers as to how to "fix" it.

You come off like a complete idiot.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:29 pm to
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There are no timeouts, dude. The coach can't call a timeout and draw up some hail mary play.


When did I ever consider this as an option?
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Again, you have 90 some odd minutes to be better than your opponent. The only team that ever bitches about extra time is the losing team. Is that really the side you want to be on?


I'd just hope I was playing the same time each game? Seems pretty logical.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:30 pm to
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Yeah basically. You have no idea about the nuance of the game and yet you think you have all the answers as to how to "fix" it.


Yep. I've got all the answers.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:30 pm to
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When did I ever consider this as an option?


So then what exactly are they doing to do differently with those precious few seconds?

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I'd just hope I was playing the same time each game? Seems pretty logical.


This is ironic because aren't you a big baseball fan?
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:31 pm to
Like I said, you're a complete idiot.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:31 pm to
You have watched too much CONCACAF Champions League to argue otherwise

It's a pretty neutral thing 99.9% of the time. Occasionally, it shits on the team trying to waste time. Ultimately, it's probably a good thing that teams can't meticulously count the seconds added on at the end of the game
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:34 pm to
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So then what exactly are they doing to do differently with those precious few seconds?


All I'm saying is it makes sense that if during the 90 minutes of play if there was 4:46 of stoppage. Why not put 4:46 on the clock instead of 4:00 or 5:00 or whatever the head ref feels like?

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This is ironic because aren't you a big baseball fan?


LSU Baseball. But I'm a big LSU fan for all sports.

When Baseball becomes a timed sport this would make sense.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:34 pm to
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Like I said, you're a complete idiot.


Absolute moron, most likely.
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
6128 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:36 pm to
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Why not put 4:46 on the clock instead of 4:00 or 5:00 or whatever the head ref feels like?


That's not even how it works. The ref has a stop watch. Every time play stops, the ref stops his watch. Every time it restarts, he starts his watch. He blows the whistle when it hits 45 minutes for each half. What you see on your TV may or may not even be correct.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 10:37 pm
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:37 pm to
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You have watched too much CONCACAF Champions League to argue otherwise.
Are you accusing Central American club teams of time-wasting?
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:38 pm to
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What you see on your TV may or may not even be correct.


Well there's a novel idea. Maybe someone could have made that clear from the get go. My apologies for assuming what was moved to the screen was the exact time.

Is the exact time displayed on the scoreboard in the stadium?
Posted by thesoccerfanjax
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:39 pm to
No. ONLY the center official has the "real" time.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:39 pm to
I don't remember if it was the Sounders, but I remember a Canadian ref looking very satisfied with the way he officiated the game when an MLS team equalized against one of the Costa Rican teams (maybe, could have been any of the non-Mexican teams)
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:40 pm to
Well, if it was this year, it wasn't the Sounders.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:40 pm to
And through modern technology that isn't communicated to anyone?

Do the players and coaches have an idea of how much time is left? I know the announcers are left guessing most of the time.
Posted by Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101750 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:42 pm to
If you're down 2-1, and you see there is 4 extra minutes and and the clock is at 93:30, you may not know how much time is left but you know you don't have much time left and if you're on defense, you know the whistle isn't going to be blown until you clear the ball out of the area so it's not really important how many exact seconds are left.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 10:42 pm to
You can ask, and they'll give you an answer. Someone is keeping it on the bench when they have multiple people sitting there
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