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Is this generation of US Soccer players the softest we've had?
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:17 pm
Let me preface this by I'm not a soccer guru. I started watching USMNT during the South Korea run, which was incredible. Since the US is Missing the world cup I've been watching some of these MLS games that have featured Bradley, Dempsey, etc. And they seem to be completely checked out. I've noticed it before but more than ever it seems they're in it for money.
The USMNT has always been defined, by me, as being super scrappy and always fight to the end. It seems we've lost some of that in the last few years although the France game gave me some hope.
I could be completely wrong with this but from an uneducated point of view it's what I'm seeing.
The USMNT has always been defined, by me, as being super scrappy and always fight to the end. It seems we've lost some of that in the last few years although the France game gave me some hope.
I could be completely wrong with this but from an uneducated point of view it's what I'm seeing.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:20 pm to geauxtigers87
No. We did have a talent gap between generations, which often happens to countries with developing programs. We also tried to continue the program under a coach for two cycles in a row, which rarely works, with a few exceptions. By the end of the Klinsmann era, we didn't do anything really well.
Hopefully with the amount of academies we have, we won't suffer such a talent gap again.
Hopefully with the amount of academies we have, we won't suffer such a talent gap again.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:22 pm to geauxtigers87
1998 was a bunch of primadonna's that were feeling themselves after having some ounce of success in the 94 WC.
They finished last in the 1998 WC, including a loss to a shite Iran squad for its first ever WC win.
They finished last in the 1998 WC, including a loss to a shite Iran squad for its first ever WC win.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 6:58 pm to Broski
I think the big problem with this cycle on the field was our player pool from ages 24-29 was terrible. With such little young talent pushing them for minutes and starting jobs, I do think many of our veteran players got complacent with earning their spots (and qualifying for the World Cup in general). They were the young players that pushed the veterans out in the 2000s, but they had few young players ready to push them out in 2017.
All teams go through development gaps once in a while, but now that our academy system is truly launched, we’ll hopefully never have such a bad string of age groups again. More kids like McKennie and Pulisic, and less like Luis Gil. We need the network of MLS, USL, and DA academies to keep growing and producing talent.
All teams go through development gaps once in a while, but now that our academy system is truly launched, we’ll hopefully never have such a bad string of age groups again. More kids like McKennie and Pulisic, and less like Luis Gil. We need the network of MLS, USL, and DA academies to keep growing and producing talent.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:07 pm to Michael Stein
Yes, the more barely Americans we have the softer we will continue to become.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:10 pm to RandySavage
Jermaine Jones was one of the hardest players we’ve ever had. The guy got a red card defending Bedoya in the Copa America Centerario.
He’ll knuckle check anyone at the nearest Sonic.
He’ll knuckle check anyone at the nearest Sonic.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:19 pm to RandySavage
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Yes, the more barely Americans we have the softer we will continue to become.
Name some players that got passed up because of a dual national.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:46 pm to pvilleguru
I don't pretend to know the fringe guys on the USMNT, I just know that having guys with very little allegiance to the USA and are only playing for us because they weren't good enough to play for the country they wanted to play for is not a good thing for our team.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 7:51 pm to Michael Stein
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Jermaine Jones was one of the hardest players we’ve ever had. The guy got a red card defending Bedoya in the Copa America Centerario.
My favorite Jermaine Jones moment was when he was Instagramming live and called out Jordan Morris for being scared to leave his parents to go play in Germany.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:08 pm to RandySavage
What if I told you that only 5 players that weren't born in the US played in any of the 10 games in the hex?
Nagbe played in most of the hex and he came here as a refugee at age 11 and hasn't lived outside the US since then.
Fabian Johnson played in 4 games (didn't really have anyone halfway decent to play LM).
Timothy Chandler played in 2 games (Yedlin was in and out of the line up at Newcastle at that time).
Jermaine Jones played in 3 games. He was on his last legs and still played harder than most of the domestic players.
John Brooks played in 2 games (one of our better CBs when healthy. Unfortunately hasn't been healthy).
Nagbe played in most of the hex and he came here as a refugee at age 11 and hasn't lived outside the US since then.
Fabian Johnson played in 4 games (didn't really have anyone halfway decent to play LM).
Timothy Chandler played in 2 games (Yedlin was in and out of the line up at Newcastle at that time).
Jermaine Jones played in 3 games. He was on his last legs and still played harder than most of the domestic players.
John Brooks played in 2 games (one of our better CBs when healthy. Unfortunately hasn't been healthy).
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:09 pm to pvilleguru
5 out of 11, 5 Americans would have earned the one extra point we needed.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:14 pm to RandySavage
quote:Name them.
5 Americans would have earned the one extra point we needed.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:16 pm to RandySavage
Those were also 2 of the 3 toughest games of the hex. A team of 10 of your "Americans" lost to T&T. So drop the bullshite.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 8:30 pm to pvilleguru
Hell, Brooks even has a tattoo of Illinois.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:30 pm to geauxtigers87
USWNT has harder players than the usmnt
The men's team need a batshit crazy Hope Solo type player imo
The men's team need a batshit crazy Hope Solo type player imo
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:40 pm to McCaigBro69
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My favorite Jermaine Jones moment was when he was Instagramming live and called out Jordan Morris for being scared to leave his parents to go play in Germany.
Don't forget his puppy. He didn't want to leave his fricking dog behind.....
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:51 pm to geauxtigers87
Just curious what is your definition of soft? This word gets thrown around a lot and I am always wondering how different people define it.
Jermaine Jones was a fricking enforcer whatever he had he left it out there.
Jermaine Jones was a fricking enforcer whatever he had he left it out there.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:46 pm to RandySavage
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5 out of 11, 5 Americans would have earned the one extra point we needed.
We didn't play the same 11 guys for 90 minutes every game.
We played 30 guys.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 7:51 am to RandySavage
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5 out of 11, 5 Americans would have earned the one extra point we needed.
Math isn't my strong suit, but I'm pretty sure 11/11 of the starters for every game in the hex were Americans.
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