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re: Is it pretentious to call soccer "football" in America?

Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:34 am to
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:34 am to
Boots is the worst though.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 7:55 am to
It's the term used all over the world
Not cleats
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:09 am to
I think this thread just shows a cultural aversion towards soccer/football and not wanting it to take off here in the States. It doesn't even have to be intentional. It's like it's ingrained into the psyche here.
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 8:33 am to
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It's the term used all over the world
Not cleats


i thought this was a thread about calling things other terms in america.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:01 am to
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Boots is the worst though.

I don't think I've ever heard someone call them "boots" in America. That would definitely get some weird looks.
Posted by BlueMoon
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:02 am to
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I don't think I've ever heard someone call them "boots" in America.

Rugby players love to use that one.
Posted by BleedPurpleGold
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:10 am to
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I think this thread just shows a cultural aversion towards soccer/football and not wanting it to take off here in the States. It doesn't even have to be intentional. It's like it's ingrained into the psyche here.


Bingo.
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:47 am to
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I think this thread just shows a cultural aversion towards soccer/football and not wanting it to take off here in the States. It doesn't even have to be intentional. It's like it's ingrained into the psyche here.




How so? Soccer has become my favorite sport by a wide margin I'm going to encourage my son to play it over football if he likes it. I still think it's obvious that a lot of fans are trying to imitate what they see on TV from Europe sometimes to the point of being snarky to those less in the know.
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 9:50 am to
Personally, I don't think just using any of the terms mentioned qualify as being pretentious just because one used those terms. I think it becomes pretentious when someone makes it a point to unnaturally use those terms around other people. I've noticed myself gradually move to using more sport-specific terms with regards to soccer....most commonly "pitch." It's nothing I've done on purpose, but something I've done more the more I watch the sport.
Posted by Downtown Devin Brown
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:02 am to
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I think this thread just shows a cultural aversion towards soccer/football and not wanting it to take off here in the States. It doesn't even have to be intentional. It's like it's ingrained into the psyche here.


I don't know if this is necessarily true. Football as we know it (NFL) was called football backed in the 1800s because it was a combination of rugby football and association football. It's not as if we started calling it soccer because we don't want it to take off ... they called it soccer because it was not as popular the other version of football.

Soccer is my favorite sport. I even sometimes call it football but it does feel slightly pretentious since the English (American) word for it is soccer.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:07 am to
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How so?


Asking if whether calling a sport by another proper name is "pretentious" only reveals a feeling of insecurity. "Will people think I'm trying too hard if I call soccer 'football'?" It's ridiculous.

Look at this board. This board was created because of the whole "soccer is gay" stigma that Americans love to espouse.

This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 10:08 am
Posted by Downtown Devin Brown
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:10 am to
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Asking if whether calling a sport by another proper name is "pretentious" only reveals a feeling of insecurity.


In America the "proper name" is soccer, not football.
This post was edited on 2/19/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:18 am to
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In America the "proper name" is soccer, not football.



Wouldn't that depend on who you ask in America?
Posted by St Augustine
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:18 am to
I mean I get where you're going but I think you're extrapolating it into a bigger deal than maybe what thread originally intended. I think we all know that hipster "you probably didn't know" type.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:23 am to
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I mean I get where you're going but I think you're extrapolating it into a bigger deal than maybe what thread originally intended. I think we all know that hipster "you probably didn't know" type.



I understand that, but America is such a huge melting pot. Just because the term "soccer" is more common doesn't mean calling it "football" is "inappropriate" or "pretentious".
Posted by Downtown Devin Brown
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:27 am to
Not really ... it's pretty well known (even around the world) that US calls it soccer because we have a much more popular sport already named football.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:29 am to
Does any of that means calling it football is pretentious, though? I don't think it does.
Posted by Downtown Devin Brown
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:37 am to
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I understand that, but America is such a huge melting pot. Just because the term "soccer" is more common doesn't mean calling it "football" is "inappropriate" or "pretentious".


I agree that calling it football isn't inappropriate, but I think you're putting way more of a negative meaning to the pretentious than what was intended
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:46 am to
Then why start the thread?

You tell me that soccer is proper, not football, because that's what the majority of people say. Now you tell me being pretentious isn't a negative quality even though the vast majority of Americans would probably say it is.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 2/19/16 at 10:53 am to
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I don't think I've ever heard someone call them "boots" in America.


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