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pvilleguru
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re: I will not be rooting for the USWNT this summer
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These people have another 100+ hours in their weeks to protest and fight for what they deem unfair yet they choose the few minutes before a sporting event when we are all supposed to come together.

But it's also the time that they will get the most visability. If they went to a random park next Tuesday afternoon, would anyone notice or care?

If Tommie Smith and John Carlos didn't do their protest during the national anthem at the 1968 Olympics, would it have made the same impact?
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i agree, keep your politics out of sport.

also, i don't like the fact that they're demanding equal pay to the men. not because i don't think a woman should be paid the same for doing the same job, but because they're not doing the same job. if one of them can make the men's team, then she deserves to be paid like a man. until then, frick off with the bullshite


pvilleguru
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if one of them can make the men's team, then she deserves to be paid like a man

Does FIFA allow women to play on the men's team? Serious question. I don't know.

I know AHSAA doesn't allow girls to be on the boys' team if the school has a girls' team.
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Palmetto08
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period


That's a sexist remark...


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I Bleed Garnet
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re: I will not be rooting for the USWNT this summer
Don’t care.
You weren’t born here anyway


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Don’t care.
You weren’t born here anyway



The Liverpool born, Chelsea head hunter


I Bleed Garnet
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The Liverpool born, Chelsea head hunter

Imo should pull for the country he’s from.

So (even though I don’t watch women’s soccer) we aren’t losing any real fans


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McCaigBro69
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But it's also the time that they will get the most visability. If they went to a random park next Tuesday afternoon, would anyone notice or care?


Well then whatever it is their protesting is a shitty opinion. The NFL players are active in the community about their cause and also have a lot of support for the cause outside of the stadium.

You’d have to be a retard to think black people shouldn’t be treated equally to white people in police encounters.

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“Using this blanketed patriotism as a defense against what the protest actually is was pretty cowardly. I think the NFL does it,” she told Yahoo Sports. “I felt like the statement from U.S. Soccer, and then the rule they made without ever talking to me, that was the same as what the NFL was doing – just to not have the conversation, to try to just stop me from doing what I'm doing instead of at least having a conversation, and trying to figure out a [solution] that makes sense for everyone.”


Her quote about it is even more ridiculous. She legitimately thinks the country is full of racists because American citizens and their employers don’t find the national anthem the time or place to protest. Notice how she doesn’t mention the NBA and their mandatory stand rule that they’ve had in place for years.

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Tommie Smith and John Carlos didn't do their protest during the national anthem at the 1968 Olympics, would it have made the same impact?


Standing with a fist in the air is not offensive in the slightest to me. They are standing to honor the anthem and everything it stands for.

Kneeling is the issue I have while wearing a US shirt. It gives off the impression that it isn’t worth the individual’s effort or time to recognize the country and that it’s something they are ashamed of.

Just my opinion though.


Masterag
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re: I will not be rooting for the USWNT this summer
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Does FIFA allow women to play on the men's team? Serious question. I don't know.



fair point.... i'm not sure.


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pvilleguru
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Kneeling is the issue I have while wearing a US shirt. It gives off the impression that it isn’t worth the individual’s effort or time to recognize the country and that it’s something they are ashamed of

Kneeling has historically been a sign of respect and that's why Kaepernick started the trend. I think he originally was just sitting on the bench, but an army vet convinced him to at least kneel. Rapinoe may be doing it as disrespect (I don't know), but the act itself isn't meant to be that.


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Hester Carries
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who gives a frick



I mean this is a bad take. So is the OP but this is bad as well.

Not rooting for an American team because you dont like something about it is LITERALLY the same thing as not wanting to sing the National Anthem because you dont like one thing happening in the country.

However, to just act like "oh the captain of the National team hate America, so what?" is retarded too. Its bothersome to SOME degree. You can debate that degree but not its existence.


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Kneeling has historically been a sign of respect and that's why Kaepernick started the trend. I think he originally was just sitting on the bench, but an army vet convinced him to at least kneel. Rapinoe may be doing it as disrespect (I don't know), but the act itself isn't meant to be that.


I know it was meant to be respectful in medieval times, but it’s almost the direct opposite reaction to standing, which is how we show respect during the anthem.


I Bleed Garnet
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Does FIFA allow women to play on the men's team? Serious question. I don't know.


I would assume they do not


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SirWinston
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re: I will not be rooting for the USWNT this summer
I am a citizen tho mate


WinnPtiger
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hen why shouldn't she fight to make it even better?



what is she fighting for? how is she fighting?


pvilleguru
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how is she fighting?

Is protesting/civil disobedience not a form of fighting for something?


WinnPtiger
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Is protesting/civil disobedience not a form of fighting for something?





sure, there is just no ends to be justified by doing what she is doing. what does she hope to accomplish? because as far as I can tell, all she's done is expose herself as an intellectual lightweight, with no appreciation for context or relativism


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Tigerfan7218
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re: I will not be rooting for the USWNT this summer
I'm inclined to be on the side if it being respectful... I hate (and I mean hate) using this example, but it's a sign of respect in the church even in modern times.

My question is, if Kaepernick or Rapinoe had just knelt during the anthem without giving a reason before hand, would anyone even have noticed?


Porcine Human
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re: I will not be rooting for the USWNT this summer
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I mean this is a bad take. So is the OP but this is bad as well.

Not rooting for an American team because you dont like something about it is LITERALLY the same thing as not wanting to sing the National Anthem because you dont like one thing happening in the country.

However, to just act like "oh the captain of the National team hate America, so what?" is retarded too. Its bothersome to SOME degree. You can debate that degree but not its existence.



I'm sorry but I can't bring myself to care about the political opinions of our women's soccer team


mynamebowl
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re: I will not be rooting for the USWNT this summer
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Kneeling has historically been a sign of respect and that's why Kaepernick started the trend. I think he originally was just sitting on the bench, but an army vet convinced him to at least kneel. Rapinoe may be doing it as disrespect (I don't know), but the act itself isn't meant to be that.


All of the Army vet stuff may be true, but Kaep kneeling as a sign of respect is absolutely not the case.


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