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re: How stacked is Belgium?
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:59 pm to glassman
Posted on 8/22/13 at 9:59 pm to glassman
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Whatever. Centuries of strife are cured overnight. They will have as much talent as anyone. Doesn't mean shite.
So Egypt won't qualify for the WC, since that country is divided right now?
We have seen what Bob Bradley and co have done there, and it is sort of the same case for Belgium, but not to the same extent.
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Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:00 pm to glassman
What the hell man? Look who just won the World Cup last time.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:10 pm to acgeaux129
Best training and players in the world. Belgium making it out of group will be a positive. Just like... 
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 10:11 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:13 pm to SwaggerCopter
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2014 World Cup Champions
The quarters are their ceiling this go around.
Also, Courtois > Mignolet
ETA: For those discussing divisions, need I remind you of the finalists of the last WC?
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:13 pm to glassman
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Best training and players in the world. Belgium making it out of group will be a positive.
Belgium is right up there near the top, talent-wise.
And yeah that is true that it will be a positive, as they haven't qualified for a WC since 2002.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 10:14 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:15 pm to svb
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Belgium is right up there near the top, talent-wise.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:16 pm to svb
Belgium is going through its golden generation but they don't have the star power of Spain. Just a lot of promising players.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:19 pm to TN Bhoy
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TN Bhoy
You don't think they are one of the 5 most talented national teams?
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:20 pm to svb
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You don't think they are one of the 5 most talented national teams?
Nope.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:21 pm to crazy4lsu
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Belgium is going through its golden generation but they don't have the star power of Spain. Just a lot of promising players.
This. They are top 10, but not on the level of Germany, Brazil, Argentina, or Netherlands.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:28 pm to crazy4lsu
We should list the talent from the top teams to see how it compares:
For Randy, Germany
Manuel Neuer - FC Bayern
Rene Adler - Hamburg
Roman Weidenfeller - BVB
Philipp Lahm - FC Bayern
Mats Hummels - BVB
Benedikt Howedes - FC Schalke
Marcel Schmelzer - BVB
Marcell Jansen - Hamburg
Jerome Boateng - FC Bayern
Sven Bender - Bayer Leverkusen
Lars Bender - BVB
Sami Khedira - Real Madrid
Mesut Ozil - Real Madrid
Julian Draxler - FC Schalke
Andre Schurrle - Chelsea
Ilkay Gundogan - BVB
Thomas Muller - FC Bayern
Marco Reus - BVB
Bastian Schweinsteiger - FC Bayern
Mario Gotze - FC Bayern
Patrick Herrmann - Gladbach
Toni Kroos - FC Bayern
Miro Klose - Lazio
Max Kruse - Gladbach
Mario Gomez - Napoli
For Randy, Germany
Manuel Neuer - FC Bayern
Rene Adler - Hamburg
Roman Weidenfeller - BVB
Philipp Lahm - FC Bayern
Mats Hummels - BVB
Benedikt Howedes - FC Schalke
Marcel Schmelzer - BVB
Marcell Jansen - Hamburg
Jerome Boateng - FC Bayern
Sven Bender - Bayer Leverkusen
Lars Bender - BVB
Sami Khedira - Real Madrid
Mesut Ozil - Real Madrid
Julian Draxler - FC Schalke
Andre Schurrle - Chelsea
Ilkay Gundogan - BVB
Thomas Muller - FC Bayern
Marco Reus - BVB
Bastian Schweinsteiger - FC Bayern
Mario Gotze - FC Bayern
Patrick Herrmann - Gladbach
Toni Kroos - FC Bayern
Miro Klose - Lazio
Max Kruse - Gladbach
Mario Gomez - Napoli
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:33 pm to hendersonshands
From a pure talent standpoint I'll take Belgium's defense, Germany in the midfield just because there is so much depth (top 4 would be pretty close imo), and Belgium's strikers (but to be fair I did just watch Benteke get crunk as hell yesterday).
If I had to pick a team more likely to make a run next summer I'd have to go with the Germans though because they know how to win.
I also think Belgium is more talented than the Netherlands right now and the Dutch big names aren't getting any younger.
If I had to pick a team more likely to make a run next summer I'd have to go with the Germans though because they know how to win.
I also think Belgium is more talented than the Netherlands right now and the Dutch big names aren't getting any younger.
This post was edited on 8/22/13 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:36 pm to RandySavage
Belgium has better center backs, I'd take Germany's fullbacks. Belgium has better strikers but Germany has midfielders who have played striker pretty well and that may be where their formation is headed: Mario Gotze, Marco Reus, Thomas Muller, Andre Schurrle can all play striker, but yeah at this point Benteke is better than Klose and Gomez. I'm a huge fan of Max Kruse though, doubt Jogi Loew will give him a real shot with the A team though.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:43 pm to hendersonshands
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Belgium has better center backs, I'd take Germany's fullbacks
Agree but Kompany is such a badass he puts them over the top for me.
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Belgium has better strikers but Germany has midfielders who have played striker pretty well and that may be where their formation is headed:
Yea I do think Germany has more goal scoring threats despite what I perceive to be a fairly weak group of strikers. Lots of guys in that midfield that can find the net.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 10:46 pm to RandySavage
I'd also say that there are at least 10 squads with a better manager than Belgium.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:09 pm to SwaggerCopter
A lot of bragging for having accomplished nothing so far. The A&M of Euro soccer I guess
Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:10 pm to RandySavage
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Agree but Kompany is such a badass he puts them over the top for me.
And Vertonghen, who was named to the PFA team of the year. I just can't believe that they have those two anchoring the middle.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:12 pm to Lordofwrath88
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A lot of bragging for having accomplished nothing so far. The A&M of Euro soccer I guess
Feel better now? I'm glad you got that out there. Now get back to the SEC Rant. Maybe you guys can actually beat A&M this year.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:29 pm to glassman
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They hate each other.
i think it's more a problem that they act like rock stars and not that they hate each other.
Posted on 8/22/13 at 11:32 pm to RandySavage
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I also think Belgium is more talented than the Netherlands right now and the Dutch big names aren't getting any younger.
the dutch are about to go through a generational transition and may have some issues in 2015/16
their midfield really has aged/fallen since the 2010 cup
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