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re: Friendlies 6/4

Posted on 6/4/14 at 4:03 pm to
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 4:03 pm to
Pump the brakes there pal...What on earth makes you think the brits will come out of their decades long funk and be a factor in a major tournament ?
I fully expect England to do a FULL England and crash and burn...
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

sterling's challenge was absolutely a red, even if he nicked the ball. insanely reckless challenge, especially for a friendly. ref got that right. both had to go.



yup I saw it again for sure a red
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 4:06 pm to
quote:

Pump the brakes there pal...What on earth makes you think the brits will come out of their decades long funk and be a factor in a major tournament ?
I fully expect England to do a FULL England and crash and burn...



They are going to be fun to watch either if they suck or show up its going to be hilarious
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 4:17 pm to
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both had to go.


I didn't really understand the announcers' outrage because it was a friendly. If anything and after all of the injuries over the past few days, that was precisely the time to take action like that, at least preventing the last 10 minutes from turning into a free-for-all.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118620 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 5:32 pm to
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Valencia grabbed Sterling by the neck. That's a red, even in a friendly.


Not in a Champions League quarter-final being held in Barcelona.

ETA: It isn't even a yellow, but time wasting when a player can't hear the whistle is a second yellow.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24814 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 5:37 pm to
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ETA: It isn't even a yellow, but time wasting when a player can't hear the whistle is a second yellow.



Is this referring to RvP's red? The second yellow was bad, but his first yellow was him being an idiot for no reason.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 5:46 pm to
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Woah, unwarranted shot at MLS refs.
I heard that bull shite. Frick whoever said that. Friendly or not, both the Sterling tackle and the Valencia response were worthy of reds. Had frick all to do with him being an MLS referee. That comment was completely uncalled for. The broadcaster undoubtedly had been waiting all match to say it, and he finally thought he had his chance. Hopefully, he realized how foolish he looked after replay. . . but I'm sure he would never admit as much.
Posted by tsmi136
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
4083 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 5:52 pm to
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They are going to be fun to watch either if they suck or show up its going to be hilarious



Especially since many have been calling for them to be more offensively minded. Whether it's crash and burn or success it will be fun to watch.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5435 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:09 pm to
Sterlings tackle is hard, but he gets the ball first and there is no other way for him to make that challenge, stuff like tat is what is taking tackling out of the game. And it is not a preseason friendly, this is a game for people to try and make their argument for a start in the world cup, it is taken a million times more seriously for people on the bubble than some random November friendly which accomplishes nothing.
He is sent off because of Valencias reaction(being infront of 4 Ecuador subs doesnt help) and AV was clearly hot headed before that challenge as he left his foot in in a challenge with Lampard that smacked him in the face.

The fear for Ox is knee ligament damage.

The players we have dictate that we will atack in a different way to previously, its just our AMs are a lot more direct, Beckham, Scholes etc. arent people that will run at you and take you on, Lallana, Barkley, Sturridge, Sterling will all take you on.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 6:14 pm
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:13 pm to
In other news, Gibraltar nabbed their first win over another UEFA member. 1-0 over Malta.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118620 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

Is this referring to RvP's red? The second yellow was bad, but his first yellow was him being an idiot for no reason.


Agreed. Abidal grabbed Diaby by the throat right in front of the ref and not even a foul was called. This was before the second yellow on RVP.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118620 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:20 pm to
quote:

The fear for Ox is knee ligament damage.


It never ends. No Walcott and no Ox.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5435 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:24 pm to
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It never ends. No Walcott and no Ox.



Lallana, Rooney, Sterling, Barkley


3 from 4 with a super sub. We'll be okay

I really dont want Andros Townsend getting called up, most overrated guy in the prem.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:27 pm to
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no other way for him to make that challenge


So, stay on your feet

quote:

stuff like tat is what is taking tackling out of the game


This is what is taking dangerous, reckless tackling out of the game

It's not like FIFA is going to hand down a ban for this
Posted by itawambadog
America, F Yeah!
Member since Nov 2007
21266 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:35 pm to
Uruguay and Slovenia about to start, should be decent
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5435 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:40 pm to
quote:


So, stay on your feet


You want your wingers tracking back making tackles. If Sterling stays on his feet Valencia is at the byline and hes chasing shadows

quote:


This is what is taking dangerous, reckless tackling out of the game



So dangerous and reckless that he was hurt so bad that he could turn right around and push him in the face...seriously his feet aren't high, his studs arent up, theres no malice at all his momentum just takes him through AV.
Slide tackling is being taken from the game, the way people act with tackles is that once the ball gets touched momentum must stop and there is to be no player to player contact, its impossible.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118620 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:40 pm to
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Lallana, Rooney, Sterling, Barkley


Walcott is the best English winger and it isn't close.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5435 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:42 pm to
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Walcott is the best English winger and it isn't close.

Yeh he starts in my England XI, but I said we would be ok not that they are our best 4.
For the first time in a long time we are deep at AM, and those 4 on form will be able to make holes in any defense in the world.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
118620 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:52 pm to
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For the first time in a long time we are deep at AM, and those 4 on form will be able to make holes in any defense in the world.


True, there is no substitute for speed though.
Posted by engvol
england
Member since Sep 2009
5435 posts
Posted on 6/4/14 at 6:53 pm to
Sterlings really running in sand....


Even with a fit Walcott, I think we would only play one true speedster, with a Lallana type on the opposite side.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 6:54 pm
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