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Foreign born players at World Cup

Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:02 am
Posted by Ron McKelvey
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:02 am
Posted by Citica8
Louisiana
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 5:36 am to
Morocco and Algeria are the Mexico to Europe
Posted by Tiger4life306
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 5:38 am to
Maybe Haaland can play for the US in 2030. He acts pretty American and he’s been in our country for several weeks now… that may qualify him
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:35 am to
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Maybe Haaland can play for the US in 2030. He acts pretty American and he’s been in our country for several weeks now… that may qualify him


He was born in England. He could have played for them if he had wanted to.
Posted by calitiger
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:42 am to
Most of the sub-Saharan African players from francophone countries were born in France. 108 players at the World Cup were born in Paris and its suburbs. Of those 108 only 11 play for France.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:48 pm to
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Most of the sub-Saharan African players from francophone countries were born in France. 108 players at the World Cup were born in Paris and its suburbs. Of those 108 only 11 play for France.


That is crazy, but it is a testimony to their colonial history.

Posted by calitiger
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:16 pm to
And to how the game is marketed in France. All pitches are free. No such thing as a private pitch. Academies are free. No pay to play. You have to earn your spot; the competition is fierce; but costs are covered. France could have fielded 5 competitive sides just from the players from Paris. That doesn't take into account Marseille, Toulouse, Lyon, etc.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:58 pm to
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Morocco and Algeria are the Mexico to Europe


I don't know about all of their players, but let's take Hakimi.


Born in Madrid and plays his club soccer in Paris.


None of his football development came from Morocco.

Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:02 pm to
North Africa was def. The big winner when fifa changed the eligibility rules.
Posted by calitiger
Uptown New Orleans
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:16 pm to
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None of his football development came from Morocco


In that case he may have grown up in a strict Muslim household and that may have influenced his decision. He also may have felt he had a better opportunity to play for Morocco vs. playing for Spain.
Posted by WinnPtiger
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:00 pm to
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And to how the game is marketed in France. All pitches are free. No such thing as a private pitch. Academies are free. No pay to play. You have to earn your spot; the competition is fierce; but costs are covered. France could have fielded 5 competitive sides just from the players from Paris. That doesn't take into account Marseille, Toulouse, Lyon, etc.



doesn’t make any of those players French

this is an unserious conversation
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:34 pm to
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doesn’t make any of those players French


The question isn't if they're French as much as it is if they're Algerian, Moroccan, Hattian, etc. There isn't a debate about them being French.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:24 am to
One thing that people never bring up is there were 10 Americans playing at this world cup who weren't on team USA.



Like Japan's goalkeeper.


Now I don't know how good these other players are, but I would take Japan's keeper over ours.




Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:27 am to
Japan doesn't recognize dual citizenship.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:31 am to
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In that case he may have grown up in a strict Muslim household and that may have influenced his decision. He also may have felt he had a better opportunity to play for Morocco vs. playing for Spain.


But if we are trying to ask why the US isn't better compared to say Morocco. Well, they have 19 players from Europe on their team.

If their team was full of just Moroccan born players, they aren't good.

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Morocco's diaspora recruitment strategy is an absolute masterclass that completely changes the game. For the 2026 FIFA World Cup, an astonishing 19 out of 26 players on Morocco's roster were born outside of the country. They did not grow up playing in Morocco; they were developed in the world-class youth academies of Spain, France, the Netherlands, and Belgium. Morocco is succeeding because they treat international recruitment like a cutthroat European club team, while the U.S. is still catching up.



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They begin tracking and building relationships with dual-national children as young as 12 years old, years before they ever reach a senior national team.




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The USMNT has historically relied on players wanting to play for the U.S. or discovering them late, rather than aggressively embedding scouts in foreign youth academies at age 12 like Morocco does.

This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 9:46 am
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 9:32 am to
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Japan doesn't recognize dual citizenship.


He was born in the US.



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Under the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, anyone born on U.S. soil is automatically a U.S. citizen at birth.

This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 9:34 am
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
26397 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 11:15 am to
Surprising that the small island nation of Cape Verde fills half their roster with players actually from that island and had the success they did

On the other hand you see a place like Curaçao and everyone was wowed by them and although their performance was impressive, it was hilarious seeing people amazed like they filled their team with just inhabitants of an island with a population of a packed stadium. Their entire roster is Dutch born and trained players.

I know they’re all African heritage migrants but surprised only a few are foreign born from France with all the grief they get for that. Would’ve expected a dozen foreign born players.
Posted by calitiger
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/10/26 at 11:49 am to
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doesn’t make any of those players French


Read my earlier post. 108 WC players born in Paris ir outskirts. That makes them French although they may choose their parents place of birth. Olise's parents are Algerian. Until independence Algeria was considered part of France and that makes him French. He could have chosen to play for Algeria but chose France. That was the same choice that Zidane had to make. I don't get what your argument is? Quite simple to understand really.
This post was edited on 7/10/26 at 11:58 am
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
20365 posts
Posted on 7/10/26 at 12:28 pm to
By age of 18, he has to choose citizenship. Everybody he knows and loves are Japanese. It's not that hard.

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