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FIFA Rankings released (September edition)

Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:57 am
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:57 am
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I know they mean nothing, but interesting to see the movement given the competitive matches just completed. Argentina, Belgium and Uruguay made nice jumps.

Nation, total points, variation in placement from August.

Top 20:
1 Spain 1514 0 Equal
2 Argentina 1263 2 Up
3 Germany 1261 -1 Down
4 Italy 1199 2 Up
5 Colombia 1180 -2 Down
6 Belgium 1159 4 Up
7 Uruguay 1126 5 Up
8 Brazil 1067 1 Up
9 Netherlands 1058 -4 Down
10 Croatia 1051 -2 Down
11 Portugal 1029 -4 Down
12 Greece 1016 -1 Down
13 USA 996 6 Up
14 Switzerland 992 1 Up
15 Russia 968 1 Up
16 Chile 967 5 Up
17 England 947 -3 Down
18 Bosnia-Herzegovina 934 -5 Down
19 Côte d'Ivoire 902 -1 Down
20 Ecuador 851 -3 Down
Posted by BraveTiger225
Atlanta, GA
Member since May 2008
17662 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 9:59 am to
Based on the rankings, and if FIFA's ruling against Cape Verde holds, these are the pots for the final African qualifying draw to be held Monday:

Pot 1 (seeded): Ivory Coast, Ghana, Algeria, Nigeria, Tunisia (this would be Cape Verde if reversed)
Pot 2 (unseeded): Egypt, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Senegal, Ethiopia
Posted by Tweezy
west of east
Member since Apr 2008
12158 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:00 am to
I hope Egypt gets the black stars so Bob can eliminate them for us.
Posted by thenry712
Zasullia, Ukraine
Member since Nov 2008
15795 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:04 am to
CAF is such a terrible organization, worse than FIFA and CONCACAF. Why waste a qualifying cycle with a group stage when the entire qualification comes down to two games? A bunch of good teams are getting screwed because FIFA rankings determine seeding.

AFCON is a terrible waste of time for everyone involved besides corrupt CAF officials.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:15 am to
I'm not that familiar with Greece. Are they worthy of #12?
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:21 am to
Everyone who has watched Greece for an extended period of time has killed themselves due to boredom
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
LA
Member since Jul 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 10:50 am to
Although this is wishful thinking, with Wins in our last 2 WCQs and some luck over in Europe with Greece , Croatia and Portugal taking a loss or two in their final group games and in the playoff,
the US could weasel their way into the top 10.

From there who knows what FIFAs agenda will be with the seeding process, but it would give us a chance (albeit maybe a long shot) @ grabbing the 8 seed.
quote:

In the past, the committee used a team’s performances in previous World Cup tournaments, combined with its FIFA world ranking, to determine seeds. For the 2006 World Cup in Germany, three years of FIFA rankings (2004-6 valued equally) were also considered, after performance in the 2002 and 1998 World Cup tournaments. In 2002, performance in the previous three World Cups (weighted) and three years of FIFA rankings were used. Then in 2010 FIFA decided to 'change' their ranking system and only use the latest FIFA rankings in the seeding process.

Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
25960 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:15 am to
quote:

From there who knows what FIFAs agenda will be with the seeding process, but it would give us a chance (albeit maybe a long shot) @ grabbing the 8 seed.


This doesnt REALLY matter that much. Who cares if we jump a top 8 team and are the Pot 1 team in our group if the team we jumped becomes the Pot 2. Portugal vs US (or some other team, just and example) is the same game regardless of seeding.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:18 am to
Being in pot 1 could mean that we maybe avoid a team like Portugal.
Posted by BlueWaffleHouse
LA
Member since Jul 2012
2016 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:23 am to
quote:

Being in pot 1 could mean that we maybe avoid a team like Portugal.



Exactly, its a crap shoot regardless which pot we are in, and the fact that FIFA can literally do whatever they want creates even more unknown, but being in POT 1 lessens the negatives outcomes a small bit
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83374 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Being in pot 1 could mean that we maybe avoid a team like Portugal.


We won't be in Pot 1.
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4919 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:33 am to
I doubt we'll get in the top 8, but we could get pretty close since the mexico win hasn't been factored in yet and panama just moved up in the rankings LINK
Posted by americanoutlaw
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2010
4919 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:43 am to
If we win the next two games, we'll get up to 1061 points, which would actually put us within reaching difference of that coveted top 7 + Brazil
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83374 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:49 am to
quote:

If we win the next two games, we'll get up to 1061 points, which would actually put us within reaching difference of that coveted top 7 + Brazil


I can't see us moving 5 spots with 2 wins.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80774 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 11:53 am to
The Mexico win isn't factored in yet, so it would be three wins.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:04 pm to
Hilarious that the US is ahead of England. They mad, real mad.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
83374 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:15 pm to
Is this factoring in the Costa Rica loss?
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21119 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:20 pm to
Is it possible that America creeps into the top 8 by the time they seed for the World Cup draw? I really know very little about how hard it would be to make that jump.
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:20 pm to
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I'm not that familiar with Greece. Are they worthy of #12?
They´re solid, and they´ve acheived these heights due to everyone else being so bad.

They´ve fallen from last month´s ranking, which is only logical.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80774 posts
Posted on 9/12/13 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

Is it possible that America creeps into the top 8 by the time they seed for the World Cup draw? I really know very little about how hard it would be to make that jump.


The odds of the USA getting a seed in the 2014 World Cup is 2.35% as of September 6th, so it should be a tiny bit higher now.
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