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re: Dribble, dribble, low percentage pass. Rinse. Repeat.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:27 am to SoulGlo
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:27 am to SoulGlo
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There's way too much "it's my turn with the ball so I need to beat a player or two then pass it" rather than "I don't have the ball yet so I will move into a passing Lane, identify the next high percentage pass before the ball gets to me, deliver the pass before opponent can react or challenge, and move."
This is key. And I think you’re really starting to see it at the Women’s World Cup too. A lot of the European countries that are football dominant that have recently started to invest in the women’s game with pro leagues are starting to produce much more attractive soccer already. Spain, Italy, England, France, Germany, etc. are all playing the kind of smart tactical soccer and it escoecially shows in the midfield I think. Now some of these teams lack finishers, but their buildup play has been better than the US imho, not always, but a lot of the time.
After watching the men’s U20 World Cup though, a lot of those players were fun to watch, and did play a smarter more attractive style of soccer thats more representative of what you see in Europe I think. Hopefully that continues to be the case.
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 12:30 am
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Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:46 am to crazy4lsu
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only team to really master it was Spain
Kinda overcooked it this time
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:42 am to SoulGlo
My son’s team just played a USYS regional and even though his team plays shite soccer, albeit very athletic, the field was not represented that way. They effectively played B-C teams from national clubs with a few A team players mixed in. Got their asses handed to them by slower, less athletic kids who moved the ball extremely well.
Soccer is being taught well in the US, it’s just that the best athletes either don’t get into the systems, aren’t selected because they can’t play as quickly, or simply aren’t willing to put in the work and sacrifice it takes to be top level.
My son would rather have fun in high school and play multiple sports than train for a chance to be in the US system. I’m sure a ton of other boys are that way.
Soccer is being taught well in the US, it’s just that the best athletes either don’t get into the systems, aren’t selected because they can’t play as quickly, or simply aren’t willing to put in the work and sacrifice it takes to be top level.
My son would rather have fun in high school and play multiple sports than train for a chance to be in the US system. I’m sure a ton of other boys are that way.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:11 am to crazy4lsu
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and it will take someone like Bielsa to implement it consistently.
You need to calm down.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:22 am to Broski
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It’s more than 20
ok 30 MLS youth set ups is still not close to enough
to think otherwise is silly
the USSF structure is holding back large scale youth development
we can't just rely on MLS
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 8:33 am
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:48 am to SoulGlo
Problem in the US is many youth teams main goal in winning instead of training and teaching kids. Sadly there is a lot of mo way invested in this system and it’s going to be hard to change that culture
Posted on 7/1/19 at 8:53 am to ProfFrink
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Problem in the US is many youth teams main goal in winning instead of training and teaching kids. Sadly there is a lot of mo way invested in this system and it’s going to be hard to change that culture
this is spot on
results don't even matter until about 14 in overseas youth set ups.
its more focused on player development
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:06 am to Bulldogblitz
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Well...we do keep trying to import asylum seekers.....eerrrr, future futbol players
found Randy’s alter
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:13 am to ProfFrink
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Problem in the US is many youth teams main goal in winning instead of training and teaching kids. Sadly there is a lot of mo way invested in this system and it’s going to be hard to change that culture
I completely agree with you, but I feel like it should be easier.
For Christ's sake, all these coaches/players/parents need to do is turn on the TV on any given Saturday or Sunday from August to May and they will see that the best teams in the world possess the damn ball.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 9:30 am to theOG
My son just quit a team like this. 32 medals, finalist/champion, and he just turned 13. So many shitty tournaments, and still half the damn kids on the team can’t even pass it.
Sickening. Those kids love playing kick ball. Funny when my son’s playing center mid and both teams are trying to keep it away from him.
Hopefully the school coach, plays on Port City, will have a core group of kids that can knock it around.
Sickening. Those kids love playing kick ball. Funny when my son’s playing center mid and both teams are trying to keep it away from him.
Hopefully the school coach, plays on Port City, will have a core group of kids that can knock it around.
This post was edited on 7/1/19 at 9:31 am
Posted on 7/1/19 at 11:22 am to SoulGlo
You’re saying the “bigger clubs” aren’t interested in technical skills etc and just teach long ball?
I 100% disagree with you.
I 100% disagree with you.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 12:41 pm to Gaston
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Got their asses handed to them by slower, less athletic kids who moved the ball extremely well. Soccer is being taught well in the US, it’s just that the best athletes either don’t get into the systems, aren’t selected because they can’t play as quickly, or simply aren’t willing to put in the work and sacrifice it takes to be top level.
We have people in this thread arguing that we don’t produce enough technical players, relying too much on athleticism, while others argue we aren’t getting enough athletes
Posted on 7/1/19 at 1:14 pm to cwil177
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others argue we aren’t getting enough athletes
And this is the stupid argument. We aren't ever going to be out athleted. Even right now.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 1:17 pm to theOG
Tactical and technical ability is where we are lacking. Again, guys like Pomykal and Richards give me immense hope for the future.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 1:52 pm to cwil177
quote:Nevermind Gaston he’s just here to brag about his kid. He’s been complaining about his kids shite teammates for 3+ years now.
We have people in this thread arguing that we don’t produce enough technical players, relying too much on athleticism, while others argue we aren’t getting enough athletes
Posted on 7/1/19 at 2:00 pm to The Mick
It’s over. It’s all gloriously over.
Now he just needs another 5-6 yards on his kickoffs to get it into the end zone.
Now he just needs another 5-6 yards on his kickoffs to get it into the end zone.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 6:31 pm to SoulGlo
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No relegation, no real multiple levels of competition.
Forgive my ignorance. I’m a follower of the game internationally and a fan of our national team, but I am not up to speed on the MLS and its processes. There also is no team anywhere near me such that I could develop a fanhood/affinity for any of the franchises.
Why hasn’t the MLS implemented this pro/reg system? Even if it involves cutting the amount of teams in the ‘first flight’ of the MLS, competition breeds success. From my perspective, which admittedly is from someone who has not played the game or followed the MLS, it seems utterly nonsensical from both the USSF and the MLS’s perspectives.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 6:36 pm to Indefatigable
When you have to spend 100 million dollars for a top flight team, people don’t want that investment relegated. I bet it happens in 20 years though.
Posted on 7/1/19 at 6:58 pm to cwil177
It’s more than $100 million now
Only way it happens is if it’s an internal MLS system
But yea these teams at the bottom have no incentive to try at the end of the year bc nothing happens
Only way it happens is if it’s an internal MLS system
But yea these teams at the bottom have no incentive to try at the end of the year bc nothing happens
Posted on 7/1/19 at 7:47 pm to StraightCashHomey21
The problem is America has resources tied up elsewhere (looking at you NCAA). I've long advocated bringing in ncaa and middle school/h.s. into the forefront of talent development.
Sweden got rid of keeping track of score/wins at the youth level for a reason. Talent development should be priority number one. America won't reach its potential until dad knows the ins and outs of how to develop a soccer player if they so wishes.
I wish we would push soccer (primarily) at early ages and once kids reach middle school, they can choose to switch sports if they choose.
Arsene Wenger "How to Build a Football Player" Interview
Sweden got rid of keeping track of score/wins at the youth level for a reason. Talent development should be priority number one. America won't reach its potential until dad knows the ins and outs of how to develop a soccer player if they so wishes.
I wish we would push soccer (primarily) at early ages and once kids reach middle school, they can choose to switch sports if they choose.
Arsene Wenger "How to Build a Football Player" Interview
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