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re: Donovan will not be invited to qualifier camp
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:09 pm to 225bred
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:09 pm to 225bred
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Some of yall overblow things, LD will be back, Klinsmann WANTS him and knows we NEED him, he's just sending a message with this, same w/ Jozy and Clint.. all those messages got through, and so will this one.
If we *NEED* him, and he's healthy, why would you NOT call him up?
The only message he's sending is that he's still making piss poor lineup and roster decisions almost two years into his term, just as he did by starting a back line that had never played together in Honduras, while the team captain sat on the bench.
If you think Klinsmann's remotely responsible for Jozy's fantastic season, or Clint playing at a (marginally) higher level club, you're as obtuse as Klinsmann.
The US has five games in twenty days, including two high level friendlies and almost ONE THIRD of your qualifying matches.
Only a tactical moron would leave the best American soccer player EVER at home for this stretch.
shite, especially at a position where we have such limited depth.
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Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:12 pm to Sheep
We need wing play, as well. Donovan can play left or right. We aren't a very deep roster.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:20 pm to UASports23
I'm not saying he needs to come right in and start... but imagine if we shite the bed in Jamaica (you know, like last year), scratch out a win against a Panama, and find ourselves down a goal to Honduras with 20 minutes to go.
Who would you want coming off of that bench? Bedoya? Brad Davis? Brad Evans? Or Landon Donovan?
Who would you want coming off of that bench? Bedoya? Brad Davis? Brad Evans? Or Landon Donovan?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:22 pm to Sheep
Just because he's healthy doesn't mean he's in any form to contribute. Starting Omar G @ Honduras wasn't the only reason we lost that game, I'd say it helped break the ice for him and lead to stellar play in the CR game and at El Tri. Speaking of that, what was your thoughts on our lineup choices for those games? I thought JK did as best he could considering the amount of injuries we were dealing with. I thought he put out a tactically solid lineup at Azteca.
No, I wasn't inferring Jozy's great season is due to JK at all, idt it is either. I should've been more clear, what I meant was since Jozy's return to the usmnt after JK left him off, he has been noticeably more active on the pitch, and he's got the hustle and fight that was starting to slip away from him way back when. He's a goal scoring machine, he just lacks ample service on the NT. and I also thought JK making Deuce captain made him come out and play well and play for the team, he played harder defense for the US than I've seen him play in a while. So I was looking at JK's "messages" that he sent to Deuce and Jozy from a USMNT perspective.
What would be your thoughts on LD playing the Gold Cup with Stu??
Also keep in mind, in compared to BB, JK has only had MB, CD and LD on the pitch together a handful of times, I think the best is still yet to come from this US squad.
No, I wasn't inferring Jozy's great season is due to JK at all, idt it is either. I should've been more clear, what I meant was since Jozy's return to the usmnt after JK left him off, he has been noticeably more active on the pitch, and he's got the hustle and fight that was starting to slip away from him way back when. He's a goal scoring machine, he just lacks ample service on the NT. and I also thought JK making Deuce captain made him come out and play well and play for the team, he played harder defense for the US than I've seen him play in a while. So I was looking at JK's "messages" that he sent to Deuce and Jozy from a USMNT perspective.
What would be your thoughts on LD playing the Gold Cup with Stu??
Also keep in mind, in compared to BB, JK has only had MB, CD and LD on the pitch together a handful of times, I think the best is still yet to come from this US squad.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:24 pm to Sheep
"Brad Evans?"
i cannot imagine Evans getting anything but gold cup time these next 2 months.
i cannot imagine Evans getting anything but gold cup time these next 2 months.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:24 pm to Sheep
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Sheep
I'm not arguing with you, I actually responded to the wrong person. I am agreeing with you.
ETA: I completely spaced your last sentence too!
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:25 pm to LSUMJ
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i cannot imagine Evans getting anything but gold cup time these next 2 months.
Sheep gonna Sheep.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:30 pm to WarSlamEagle
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LD is still having trouble getting back into form. Have you seen what he's done in MLS this season?
im 100% positive that you know more about how well landon donovan is playing right now than i do. with that said, i really dont care how well he is playing. i am also 100% positive that he would play better than whatever piece of shite we are about to throw out there.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:34 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Look at sheep, bringing that logic to this thread.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:35 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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with that said, i really dont care how well he is playing. i am also 100% positive that he would play better than whatever piece of shite we are about to throw out there.
I'd rather have a MLS guy who was playing well over a MLS guy who hasn't played well after bailing on the team for some important matches. Give me Graham Zusi over Landon right now.
But, yes, since he's Landon Freaking Donovan, we must move heaven and earth for him.
He simply needs to get back into better form before he's a reliable option for the USMNT. He either needs to just stay with the Galaxy or try to work on it at the Gold Cup.
He hasn't looked good in quite a while. I wouldn't waste a roster spot on name value, even if he's at a spot we're not very deep at.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:36 pm to WarSlamEagle
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I'd rather have a MLS guy who was playing well over a MLS guy who hasn't played well after bailing on the team for some important matches.
But, yes, since he's Landon Freaking Donovan, we must move heaven and earth for him.
He simply needs to get back into better form before he's a reliable option for the USMNT. He either needs to just stay with the Galaxy or try to work on it at the Gold Cup.
He hasn't looked good in quite a while. I wouldn't waste a roster spot on name value, even if he's at a spot we're not very deep at.
We. Don't. Have. Depth. At. Wing.
Who is better? Brad Davis or Landon Donovan? What about Bedoya, or Gatt?
Jesus why are so many people being so obtuse?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:37 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Do you watch much MLS? Zusi is no Donovan, but he is playing excellent this year and has been playing well for the US, he's far from a "piece of shite"...
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:41 pm to WarSlamEagle
You're taking apples and oranges.
No one is talking about Graham Zusi for Landon Donovan. People are saying they'd take Donovan over some chump that will be called up. Since, JK likes to have a few useless pieces in camp.
We'd rather waste a roster spot on experience than a MLS talent who doesn't translate into the USMNT.
No one is talking about Graham Zusi for Landon Donovan. People are saying they'd take Donovan over some chump that will be called up. Since, JK likes to have a few useless pieces in camp.
We'd rather waste a roster spot on experience than a MLS talent who doesn't translate into the USMNT.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:41 pm to cwil177
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I'd rather have a MLS guy who was playing well over a MLS guy who hasn't played well after bailing on the team for some important matches. Give me Graham Zusi over Landon right now. But, yes, since he's Landon Freaking Donovan, we must move heaven and earth for him. He simply needs to get back into better form before he's a reliable option for the USMNT. He either needs to just stay with the Galaxy or try to work on it at the Gold Cup. He hasn't looked good in quite a while. I wouldn't waste a roster spot on name value, even if he's at a spot we're not very deep at.
Yes, this. All of it.
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We. Don't. Have. Depth. At. Wing.
We will live until LD comes back.
Calm. Down. Bro.
quote:everytime I hear obtuse I think of this:
why are so many people being so obtuse?
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:42 pm to cwil177
The Landon Donovan of right now is nowhere near the Landon Donovan of the past, the player everyone is screaming for right now. He could get there, he's just not there right now...and that's his fault.
I have no problem with this move.
I have no problem with this move.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:45 pm to Sheep
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I'm not saying he needs to come right in and start
I am. Every other option pretty much sucks.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:45 pm to UASports23
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No one is talking about Graham Zusi for Landon Donovan.
I've seen it, but okay. Fine.
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People are saying they'd take Donovan over some chump that will be called up.
My point is Donovan is playing like a chump. If Klinsmann calls up a guy who isn't playing better than LD in whatever league he's from, then it would be a waste.
ETA: I know Klinsmann makes decisions that have nothing to do with form. I think that's another thing people have a problem with...why choose based on form now? (Still think it's a good decision, even if it's inconsistent.)
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:50 pm to WarSlamEagle
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My point is Donovan is playing like a chump.
How was he playing prior to the hat trick against Scotland last year?
Show me another guy with near his ability and I won't care that he gets left off. I don't really care about his current form.
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:51 pm to WarSlamEagle
Preach Preacha!
I've been itching for a good USMNT discussion, I'm craving International football.
What about this lineup for our next qualifier?
I've been itching for a good USMNT discussion, I'm craving International football.
What about this lineup for our next qualifier?
Posted on 5/14/13 at 3:54 pm to uway
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How was he playing prior to the hat trick against Scotland last year?
Better than he is right now, by far.
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Show me another guy with near his ability
We don't have another winger right now with his ability. He's the best USMNT player of all-time. Period.
But form plays a lot into the decision. He hasn't played up to his ability since coming back from his sabbatical.
If he comes off the bench for us right now, based on his recent play, he won't do much. He's started less than half of his matches for LA. Younger guys on that team are playing tons better right now.
He's not in 2010 hero form. He's not in 2012 meh form, either.
I believe he needs more time to get back. Until then, let's use this roster spot on someone who is playing well. If Klinsmann picks a guy who is playing just as poorly, then I'll have a problem just like the rest of you.
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I don't really care about his current form.
Well, that usually plays a huge part into call-ups. Klinsmann just doesn't use that all the time.
This post was edited on 5/14/13 at 3:58 pm
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