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re: Champions League/Europa Semi's Draw

Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:00 am to
Posted by UPT
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:00 am to
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I'm not sure of Chelsea's plans for Courtois after this season, but if I were them I'd tell em to frick off. He can rot on the bench before he goes to Atletico.



First of all, Atletico can't afford him. They want to make him part of a deal for Diego Costa. I can't see Chelsea falling for that. Diego Costa will more than likely leave Madrid this Summer and it looks like Chelsea will be where he lands. Atletico need that money and it would behoove them to keep a good working situation with Chelsae and not break contracts that they signed.

Second, it's being reported that Courtois is on the verge of signing an extension with Chelsea that will probably send him back to Atletico on loan if they stick to their end of the bargain.
Posted by PTBob
Member since Nov 2010
7105 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:06 am to
But Atletico is better than Madrid.
Posted by RandySavage
9 Time Natty Winner
Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:09 am to
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Diego Costa will more than likely leave Madrid this Summer and it looks like Chelsea will be where he lands.


Dude, it's been a good week. Don't kill my buzz.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
25338 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 9:44 am to
Randy, what other striker do you expect us to be in the market for next year? There doesn't seem to be a huge pool of options like there was last year.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:12 am to
When it gets to the semis, even the loaning team should realize the public demand the best 11 vs. the best 11.

Bayern big over Madrid, 7-3

Chelsea squeaks by Athletico because of experience 4-3.

Bayern exacts their revenge in the championship game 3-1.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:12 am to
None really, which is why I'm afraid Costa is going to happen.

I'd be perfectly fine just bringing Lukaku back and making him the #1.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:18 am to
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even the loaning team should realize the public demand the best 11 vs. the best 11.


No, they shouldn't.

The "public" shouldn't invalidate a contract that has been greatly beneficial to Atletico. If UEFA has other reasons, then that's fine.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:23 am to
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When it gets to the semis, even the loaning team should realize the public demand the best 11 vs. the best 11.

Bayern big over Madrid, 7-3

Chelsea squeaks by Athletico because of experience 4-3.

Bayern exacts their revenge in the championship game 3-1.


please stop posting over here

Bayern's CB's have looked awful. The Madrid BBC is very capable of putting more than 3 past them in two legs. The fact you think Bayern will score 7 while holding Real to 3 is a bit absurd. If Bayern plays an open style to score 7 Madrid will be trading punch for punch with them and it will be a high scoring tie.

Chelsea's experience wtf are you talking about. This 2014 team is a shadow of the one that won in 2012. Lots of new and young players on this Chelsea squad.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 10:25 am
Posted by wm72
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:25 am to
They "shouldn't" but this is what it comes down to from UEFA I'd imagine.

Courtois may be owned by Chelsea but he's an Atletico player in pretty much every neutral fans' experience since he's played around 150 matches for them and 0 for Chelsea.

UEFA will try to find/create whatever rule they need to make sure they don't have the vast majority of neutral followers thinking it cheapens such a high profile match that he can't play.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 11:11 am
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:38 am to
I don't doubt it. I just don't agree with it. Though, in a sense, this is probably what Chelsea deserve for buying every promising young player in the world. Should have loaned Courtois out to Vitesse.

But, at the end of the day, I'd honestly be less bothered if Platini personally wired Atletico money to recall Asenjo.
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9753 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 10:59 am to
The problem with this stuff is always that UEFA has enough vague rules that there is always something they can point out but seldom a clear one that everyone knows.

Italian FIGC is just as bad--see the recent Destro suspension for hitting Astori where the main difference in his suspension and the numerous similar events that go unpunished almost weekly is simply the amount of national press it received and that mainly because Roma is within striking distance of Juve.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 11:00 am
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:12 am to
I think that it's very telling that clubs themselves can't even seem to figure things out

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numerous similar events that go unpunished


I think it's hilarious that events that would cause a riot in England regularly go unpunished elsewhere, e.g., LINK
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6071 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:14 am to
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When it gets to the semis, even the loaning team should realize the public demand the best 11 vs. the best 11.



I'd like Ivanovic's yellow card accumulation ban lifted so we can enjoy the best 11.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:14 am to
Card bans that carry over are just terrible.
Posted by RandySavage
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Member since May 2012
35826 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:15 am to
Worst rule in sports, easily.
Posted by S.E.C. Crazy
Alabama
Member since Feb 2013
7905 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:42 am to
Who are you to tell anyone to quit posting, anywhere on any message board, it makes you look like a stupid idiot.

My picks in the quarters was.

Athletico over Barca.
R.M. over BVB
Bayern over Manu
PSG over Chealsa

I bet you were one of the ones mocking my Athletico pick, sit down son.

Frank Lampard
Peter Cech
Gary Cahil
John Terry
Branslav Ivanovic
David Luiz
Torres, but he is shyt.

No, you are right, Chealsa doesn't have any experience at all, in 2012 Chealsa won with their defense and even though both Terry and Ivanovic were suspended for the finals vs. Bayern, they both contributed greatly on Chealsa getting to the finals. Like I said, the experience these guys have in champions league I think will make the difference, regardless of how clueless you are to facts son.

Athletico's first semi-final appearance in 40 years.

I hate Chealsa and hope I am wrong, but your ignorance about facts is laughable.


And Jose Mourinho has no C.L. experience either I suppose.

Last year Bayern trounced Barca. 7-0 in two legs and BVB beat R.M., I am not that impressed with Spanish sides vs. the Bayern machine.

It takes a defensive effort to have a shot at beating B.M. and I think once B.M. wins the first game 2-1 or 3-1 R.M. will have to chase the game in game 2 and will give up goals.

It's my opinion, you don't have to bet the house on it, but you need to learn manners son.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:47 am to
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I bet you were one of the ones mocking my Athletico pick, sit down son.


quote:

Athletico


quote:

sit down son
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:47 am to
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Frank Lampard


doesn't get regular mins

quote:

Peter Cech


yes

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John Terry


ok

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Gary Cahil


wasn't even a regular back then with only 26 games

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Branslav Ivanovic


suspended first leg

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David Luiz


ok
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Torres, but he is shyt.


quote:

No, you are right, Chealsa doesn't have any experience at all, in 2012 Chealsa won with their defense and even though both Terry and Ivanovic were suspended for the finals vs. Bayern, they both contributed greatly on Chealsa getting to the finals. Like I said, the experience these guys have in champions league I think will make the difference, regardless of how clueless you are to facts son.



you named a fraction of the roster. You could have said Ramries over
Torres



This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 11:50 am
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
126858 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:52 am to
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Last year Bayern trounced Barca. 7-0 in two legs and BVB beat R.M., I am not that impressed with Spanish sides vs. the Bayern machine.



You clearly do not watch enough Bayern. Both Madrid and Bayern have new managers with different styles.

along with the Barca side you are using

On the regular you come on here talking nonsense and no one takes you serious.

Bayerns back line is shaky and Madrid could easy put 3 past them in one night. All be it lose 4-3.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
6071 posts
Posted on 4/11/14 at 11:55 am to
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Gary Cahil



wasn't even a regular back then with only 26 games



Absolutely wrong.

He was immense in that Champion's League run. Block after block against Barca and Bayern.

Cech, Ivan, Cahill, Terry, Luiz, Lampard, Ramires, Torres, Eto'o, Mourinho, all have big time Champions League experience. Not nearly as much on the Atletico side.
This post was edited on 4/11/14 at 11:59 am
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