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re: Cameron: Bruce cost us the World Cup

Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:53 pm to
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 4:53 pm to
Whether, JK would've done better than BA is unknowable!

I do believe that there needs to be improvement from top to bottom in the US if we are to compete for a World Cup trophy. We need better player development, training, and inclusion of talent from all walks of life and communities. We need better coaching from the youth ranks all the way up to the head coach of the USMNT! There needs to be more accountability for national team results from US Soccer. Also, there needs to be a time table for a path to promotion and relegation in MLS and the "minor" leagues of professional soccer.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
155596 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 5:40 pm to
Lol at people shitting on the 2002 team and WC. That tournament was HUGE as far as getting things moving in this country. Imagine a flop in 02 to go along with 98 and 06...Donovan’s goal in 2010 would’ve been no more than a 5 second “top play” blurb.

Oh yea, remember when we needed a last minute goal to beat Algeria!!!??
Posted by jackwoods4
Member since Sep 2013
28667 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:34 pm to
we should've never been in the position we were in. but that team should've been able to win the last match with me as the manager.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
23876 posts
Posted on 2/1/18 at 10:40 pm to
or a pet rock with a sticky note reading


“coach”
Posted by RemouladeSawce
Uranus
Member since Sep 2008
13936 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 10:38 am to
I really don't care who the coach was for Trinidad, the only guy on a team of too many veterans that played with passion and urgency that second half was a teenager.

The gutless performance by our players is the disgrace. Forever etched in my memory is Bradley looking bored in distribution in the late minutes as if he were up 3.
This post was edited on 2/2/18 at 10:39 am
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 10:40 am to
quote:

Also, there needs to be a time table for a path to promotion and relegation in MLS and the "minor" leagues of professional soccer.

Nah. It's not that important.
Posted by SCP
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2016
1337 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:01 am to
I disagree. Relegation is not near the top of our concerns, but needs to be addressed eventually. If we want to compete with the best in the world, we should emulate the best leagues in the world (for the sake of competition and player development). Doing it our own way has delayed the process, IMO. We have not made enough progress! It feels like one step forward and two steps back too often.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 11:03 am to
quote:

If we want to compete with the best in the world, we should emulate the best leagues in the world (for the sake of competition and player development).

They aren't the best in the world because of pro/rel.
Posted by kilo
Member since Oct 2011
27424 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 3:01 pm to
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if they would have kept Jurgen and not done such a drastic change, I think we would have qualified. I know we would have qualified. Instead we’ve gone backward.


Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
20822 posts
Posted on 2/2/18 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

I really don't care who the coach was for Trinidad, the only guy on a team of too many veterans that played with passion and urgency that second half was a teenager.


Pretty much this. They should be able to beat T&T without a coach 5-0.
Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
14403 posts
Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:02 am to
I think I have lost IQ points reading this thread. Not your fault broski.
Posted by Lordofwrath88
Tuscaloosa
Member since Oct 2012
6857 posts
Posted on 2/7/18 at 10:35 pm to
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The World Cup that literally everyone knows was rigged?




you mean for Korea? I don't think a single match fixer gave our games a second look.... except the one we played against Korea.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
29206 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 5:19 am to
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If we want to compete with the best in the world,


I’m convinced this will not happen in my lifetime.

As long as soccer is a rich kid suburbanite game, with the corresponding parental meddling and “influencing” we will be forever mediocre.
Posted by DFWAggie09
DFW
Member since Oct 2011
1483 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:21 am to
Geoff just airing it all out and I dig it.

Player's Tribune Aritcle

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It’s this simple: That Trinidad & Tobago team was full of athletes, and we were playing away on an atrocious pitch, and we only needed one point to qualify for the World Cup. So what formation did we use? 4-1-3-2. One defensive midfielder. One defensive midfielder, on a terrible pitch, against a team that wants to capitalize on bad bounces and mistakes. When we only needed one point.


quote:

I don’t bring this up to be a jerk. I don’t bring this up to rub salt in any wounds. I bring this up because Bruce Arena, the coach who was responsible for this formation, came out after the game and said, “We played down a man because we couldn’t dribble out of the back.”
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 10:23 am
Posted by BCLA
Bossier City
Member since Mar 2005
8068 posts
Posted on 2/9/18 at 12:19 pm to
That's a fantastic article. Can we please print 2000 copies of it and pass it around the convention this weekend? He's always been one of my favorites and he just cemented that today.
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