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re: 3 things preventing soccer from gaining mainstream U.S. popularity
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:47 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:47 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I somewhat disagree with people saying our best athletes need to play soccer. I don't consider Clint or even Jozy(gasp) to be the top athletes in the US. We just need to have good talent evaluators that jump on the 7yr olds that are dominating youth leagues before high school football coaches do. You give kids attention at that age they will continue with the sport that earned them that attention.
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Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:51 pm to sgallo3
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That botched clearance against Portugal was shite that should never happen in a U15 game, much less the world cup.
That's weird - it happened three times in a row in some game I was watching last week. Uruguay, maybe.
It's a shame that Cameron was the first professional to ever mishit a clearance attempt. I had never seen that happen at any level before.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:51 pm to noonan
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The next time someone snaps the ball with one second left in football and runs some crazy play that lasts 8 to 13 seconds I want you to come here and tell us that that play should have been blown dead when the clock hit zero.
Bad analogy. A better one would be Hockey. Shot on goal goes in the net AFTER THE HORN SOUNDS and is disallowed.
The NHL changed its rules (offside, removal of ties, etc.) to better appeal to the audience and it worked.
The closest mainstream U.S. sport to soccer is Hockey.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:51 pm to Hester Carries
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I somewhat disagree with people saying our best athletes need to play soccer. I don't consider Clint or even Jozy(gasp) to be the top athletes in the US. We just need to have good talent evaluators that jump on the 7yr olds that are dominating youth leagues before high school football coaches do. You give kids attention at that age they will continue with the sport that earned them that attention.
Our country is loaded with athletic talent of all sizes we don't need Lebrons and shite playing soccer.
Its all about tactics,youth development etc.
We need to continue to shop our best young players even as young as 12 to overseas academies and the ones who don't get snapped up need to hit the MLS youth set ups with the chance of getting a look later to move overseas or become a first teamer at a young age 17 18 then move abroad.
Freddy Adu should have never played at DC United at 14 it completely fricked his growth as a player. He should have been in a youth academy and he had plenty wanting him.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:54 pm to PeepleHeppinBidness
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The time to be added is displayed to the world by the fourth official and is usually only a couple of minutes. Other than just being different from other sports, I don't understand the grief over it
I think the issue is inexactness. In American football, the time allowed to run more plays is shown in exactness. Yes, if a play is in motion when the clock hits zero, it's allowed to continue (just like how if the stoppage time runs out an attacking opportunity is allowed to continue). However, the time in which to start a play (attack) is shown down to the second. In soccer, that time is a little vague, even if we have a good idea about it.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:57 pm to DoreonthePlains
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Yes, if a play is in motion when the clock hits zero, it's allowed to continue
In football, if the play is in progress after the clock stops, the play continues until it's over.
In basketball, if a shot is in the air when the clock stops, it counts if it's good. If it leaves the shooter's hands after the clock stops, it's invalid.
In Hockey, if the puck goes in the net after the clock stops, the goal is invalid.
This post was edited on 7/1/14 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:57 pm to DoreonthePlains
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However, the time in which to start a play (attack) is shown down to the second. In soccer, that time is a little vague, even if we have a good idea about it.
I have never been able to figure out why this matters.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 12:59 pm to noonan
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I have never been able to figure out why this matters.
Sports aren't supposed to be "fair". They're supposed to be about defeating your opponent and, if need be, rubbing it in their faces.
The refs shouldn't be able to remove the ability of a winning team to run the clock out.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:01 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The refs shouldn't be able to remove the ability of a winning team to run the clock out.
Jesus. So do you think baseball should be timed too instead of using innings?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:02 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The refs shouldn't be able to remove the ability of a winning team to run the clock out.
They aren't
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:09 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Jesus. So do you think baseball should be timed too instead of using innings?
Baseball has no clock.
Any game involving a clock should have that clock displayed for all to see, not on a stopwatch carried by the referree.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:10 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
who said there isn´t a clock displayed at stadiums?
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:11 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
The clock and amount of penalty time is public knowledge...
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:11 pm to Dandy Lion
I'll tell you what's not doing much for soccer relations in Baton Rouge, this gay British guy who does the local show. I think its scott rodgers' boyfriend
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:13 pm to Dandy Lion
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who said there isn´t a clock displayed at stadiums
Right, and the amount of time to be added is displayed in the stadium as well. And can be compared to the running clock.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:14 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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CGSC Lobotomy
You know that soccer only adds time when the ball is out of play.... right?
So if a team is passing the ball around to run out the clock, the time continues.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:18 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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1. TV audience. The thing soccer doesn't have that all other U.S. PROFESSIONAL sports do is media timeouts. Advertisers and networks do not like to broadcast commercial free for 45-50 minutes straight.
I agree with this.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
I think you're oversimplifying the time management rules in football. Every year college coaches lose games for their teams based on how they manage the clock. Next time Les Miles fricks up and loses a game for LSU due to his poor time management skills, there will be a thousand different threads either defending him or laying blame and setting out opinions on what he should have done.
I would venture to say the rules on time are easier to understand in soccer than in football. That's even if football does have a clock that ticks down to zero, instead of up to a number.
I would venture to say the rules on time are easier to understand in soccer than in football. That's even if football does have a clock that ticks down to zero, instead of up to a number.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 1:27 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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Show me evidence that Professional Soccer will EVER outdraw the big 4 in the U.S. I'm not talking about a once every 4-year event. Also tell me that the ratings in the U.S. are even close to as high when the U.S. isn't playing.
a.) Baseball used to the be most popular sport in the US.
b.) It doesn't happen overnight. The NFL has been around...what....90 years? It didn't start out with the same popularity it has now.
c.) as more and more young people play soccer, the sport will become more and more popular. I know a lot of parents steering their kids to soccer rather than football.
d.) There are more and more Hispanic/soccer fans moving to this country every year.
The short-sightedness of some is surprising. It will happen. It's just going to take a while...like decades. But it will happen.
Posted on 7/1/14 at 2:51 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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The refs shouldn't be able to remove the ability of a winning team to run the clock out.
They don't. The ref only stops when the ball is out of play or if a team is deliberately delaying the restart of the game. If not, an attacking team could earn a free kick, throw-in, or corner kick and then just wait minutes and minutes to waste time. It would be similar to a team in the NFL not having a play clock so they could waste minutes and minutes between plays, if they ever ran another one. Soccer's "play clock" just happens to be much shorter and instead of a penalty, the ref stops his watch.
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