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Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:07 pm to
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Nicolás Otamendi to join Mancity in €40 million deal, with Mangala going to Valencia on a loan....



No chance IMO that Mangala is leaving. City wouldn't be starting him if he was likely leaving for a season. He's also been lights out, surprisingly.

The Otamendi deal is looking likely though.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:44 pm to
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The Otamendi deal is looking likely though.



bad news for Denayer
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:07 pm to
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La Gazzetta: Mateo Kovacic to join Real in €30 million deal


Can't think of any other young, attacking midfielders playing for Real Madrid ETA: Seeing that he plays deeper than I thought. Anyone who watches Serie A have an opinion on his possible role?

In other news, I've seen William Carvalho linked heavily to Real Madrid for a lot of money
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:28 pm to
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bad news for Denayer


Nothing like inking a kid for 5 years then signing someone else to take his spot.

I ultimately think it's for Demichelis' spot after this season though. Denayer should still get 15-20 appearances this season.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:30 pm to
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Nothing like inking a kid for 5 years then signing someone else to take his spot.

I ultimately think it's for Demichelis' spot after this season though. Denayer should still get 15-20 appearances this season.



the kid would have 4 guys in front of him two of which combined for 70 million pounds.

He will be sold in 2 years
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:33 pm to
I mean if City sign Otamendi and KDB before the window closes I don't even see this being a competition this season.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:36 pm to
140 on 3 players
Posted by WarSlamEagle
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:44 pm to
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Can't think of any other young, attacking midfielders playing for Real Madrid ETA: Seeing that he plays deeper than I thought. Anyone who watches Serie A have an opinion on his possible role?

In the few times I've watched Inter with him, he's been a deep-lying CM who charges forward from time to time. He can dribble well, pretty creative passer.

His defense is OK, I guess.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:49 pm to
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140 on 3 players


Lol whatever it takes
Posted by RandySavage
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:50 pm to
Hey guys, any Chelsea links? No?

Oh well, can't wait to watch Ramires and Willian on the attack next week!
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:59 pm to
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In other news, I've seen William Carvalho linked heavily to Real Madrid for a lot of money

Saw that Friday, I believe. Sporting de Lisboa has slapped a €45M price tag on him.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 4:07 pm to
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Anyone who watches Serie A have an opinion on his possible role?

he's a werid guy. he's an explosive/dribbler guy who was developing into a DLP role on inter

i've been waiting to see what big club made a move for him. glad it's real
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 4:26 pm to
Carvalho is recovering from a broken leg, correct? If I'm right, when is he supposed to come back?
Posted by wm72
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 5:11 pm to
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Can't think of any other young, attacking midfielders playing for Real Madrid ETA: Seeing that he plays deeper than I thought. Anyone who watches Serie A have an opinion on his possible role?


In the few times I've watched Inter with him, he's been a deep-lying CM who charges forward from time to time. He can dribble well, pretty creative passer.

His defense is OK, I guess.




Kovacic, in my opinion, is a bit more of a dynamite prospect than a player that has consistently changed games thus far.


I believe Mancini really wanted to keep him at Inter. However, Inter were willing to let him go (due to their FFP problems) as they are focused on getting back into a CL spot in a rapidly improving top third of the Serie A and need players that are ready now.


Why he's such a coveted prospect is his ultra-slick control in tight spaces and that he makes some absolutely outlandish passes which only a handful of players would even consider.


As a couple of people have alluded to, he has been a bit of a man without a clear position. It seems that making him a truer DLP has been Mancini's plan yet he's really been strongest in picking out passes in the final third and not in reading the game and taking charge of spreading play from a deeper position.

He's also not really much of a defender at this point.

You could compare his skill set to Pjanic or Modric when they were his age and not be exaggerating in the least.

On that note, Pjanic also struggled early on to consistently impose himself on matches aside from just making youtube highlight touches, dribbles and passes here and there.

Kovacic, to me, is the type talent that you kind of wish would not go a bigger side than Inter but a smaller one for a season or two and just play every match with less pressure but that seldom happens these days.








This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 7:45 pm
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:29 pm to
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Nicolás Otamendi will be officially unveiled as a Manchester City player on Monday. The Valencia defender, who on Sunday did not attend training with his teammates but was at the club's offices, will complete a transfer to the Etihad for 40 million euros, with France international Eliaquim Mangala moving to the Mestalla on loan. Valencia have finally buckled under the defender's repeated demands to be allowed to leave, which reportedly led to him asking manager Nuno to be excused from training.
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:30 pm to
he´s got a stress fracture.
Posted by joey barton
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 8:03 pm to
Sounds like a pretty exciting signing.

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Kovacic, to me, is the type talent that you kind of wish would not go a bigger side than Inter but a smaller one for a season or two and just play every match with less pressure but that seldom happens these days.


Yeah, not ideal, but he should get opportunities to play
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:24 pm to
i don't know how real will fit modric, isco, james, bale (who is reportedly the new 10) and him in the same lineup so odds are he'll be benched
Posted by wm72
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:25 pm to
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Kovacic, to me, is the type talent that you kind of wish would not go a bigger side than Inter but a smaller one for a season or two and just play every match with less pressure but that seldom happens these days.



Yeah, not ideal, but he should get opportunities to play


Yeah, my concern would be that for such a high profile signing to Real Madrid, people may expect him to step in and not be quite so "raw" right away.

Best to keep in mind that he never actually established himself as a regular starter for a much weaker Inter side even if the flashes of ridiculous skill were apparent.


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Sounds like a pretty exciting signing.


He is definitely one of the more talented midfield prospects around.


Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 8/17/15 at 12:20 am to
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I don't know how real will fit modric, isco, james, bale (who is reportedly the new 10) and him in the same lineup


Shite assuming you keep Benzema in center and CR7 out wide a high profile player you already had will ride the pine a lot.....I'm looking at Isco unfortunately.
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