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1,834 Days - Pulisic piece on The Player’s Tribune

Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:58 am
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:58 am
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Solid piece. Don’t agree that Gulati and Arena aren’t people to blame though.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 10:47 am to
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The second thing I want to say here is that I’m not a prodigy — or a “wonderboy,” as some have put it


He's wrong here, he absolutely is. Even off of the field for a teenager to be able to pen what he wrote, and achieve what he has achieved he is absolutely a wonderboy.
Posted by The_Joker
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 11:18 am to
Goddamn I love The Players Tribune

ETA: Also,

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And the more I think about it, you know, I’ve really been like that my whole life. Obsessed with winning. No matter what I’d be doing — whether it was a game of H-O-R-S-E with my dad, or capture the flag as a little kid, or FIFA with my friends, or a match with Dortmund … the idea of needing to win … it would just eat at me. Which isn’t to say that I’d even win all the time. Like — I’m not even that good at FIFA. But I’ll just get so angry about it, so consumed by it. If I’m doing a thing, then I want to be the best at it. I’m not sure what that means … but it’s just who I am.

It’s who I’ve always been.


Give this fricking kid the armband. That's an attitude Bradley could never comprehend, and the attitude the team needs.
This post was edited on 11/13/17 at 12:31 pm
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:34 pm to
It's a good read. Nice insight into the mind of one of the national team players. But I do have a question on one of his points:

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And then the third thing I want to say here is that I love American soccer. Which maybe sounds obvious — but I think a lot of people have this weird idea of USMNT players who have come up in Europe. They’ll talk about how we’re somehow less passionate about U.S. Soccer, or less American about it. That we’re these ringers or something — these outsiders brought in as, like, a cheat code to beat European sides. And it couldn’t be further from the truth.

It really frustrates me when people say, “Oh, he’s barely American,” or, “He grew up in the Dortmund academy,” or anything like that. First of all, it’s not true: Until I was 16, I came up through the U.S. youth system. I did all of the camps, the academies, the residency programs, the travel teams, and everything else it had to offer. I’ll always be a part of that system, and I’ll always be indebted to it. Second of all, I think that’s just a dangerous attitude in general: Having a closed-minded view of what does or doesn’t constitute being an American. And I hope it’s an attitude that we can keep out of this conversation in the years to come.

Are people really saying this about Pulisic? I know that some people weren't too happy with all of the "Germericans" that Klinsmann brought in. But are there really people out there that don't consider Pulisic a "true" American?
Posted by BamaCoaster
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 12:41 pm to
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But are there really people out there that don't consider Pulisic a "true" American?


I personally don't know of any, but for him to include this, there must be.
Possibly some trolls on the interwebs as well.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:04 pm to
idk if it's serious or a joke, but I know on r/soccer, especially since Croatia qualified over the weekend, there have a been a lot of people saying that he regrets the decision and what not.

He even explains in the article that the Croatian passport was only used to go to Dortmund's academy though, so that should clear any of that up.
Posted by GeauxColonels
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:08 pm to
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I personally don't know of any, but for him to include this, there must be.

I was thinking the same. I can understand the argument made against some of the other players....but I don't see how that could ever be applied to Pulisic or anyone else that follows a similar path.
Posted by PhilipMarlowe
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:11 pm to
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Are people really saying this about Pulisic?


if they are, then sign me up for a roster full of barely-americans.

what an excellent piece.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:18 pm to
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Are people really saying this about Pulisic?

Of course there are.
Posted by lionward2014
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 1:24 pm to
If people think that the kid with "straight outta Hershey" on his Twitter page is barely American, then I have no idea what counts as full American anymore.
Posted by mynamebowl
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:00 pm to
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That's an attitude Bradley could never comprehend, and the attitude the team needs.


Agreed. I love this kid.

Sorry for the hijack here, but...

Dempsey should have been the full time captain all along. Bradley has been a good player for us and has even come up big in a couple huge games, but he was never the real leader of men that the US Federation, coaches & some fans wanted him to be. I stress the word “some” there because I never really bought into him as our captain. After the 2010 WC, I really thought he and Jermaine had the potential to boss maybe any midfield duo at the tournament and lead us to a last 8 or maybe even last 4 run at that tournament. Turns out only one of them really showed up. I hate to be so negative about the guy, but Bradley really shite the bed in 2014. It looked like the moment was a little too big for him. Speaking of JJ - He was as much or more of a leader on the field than anyone the US has fielded the past 6-8 years. Definitely more so than MB.
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:04 pm to
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Dempsey should have been the full time captain all along.

Nah.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 2:23 pm to
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Dempsey should have been the full time captain all along.


No, Deuce has even said it himself when Jurgen gave him the armband that he never though of himself as a captain, and he was quoted after the armband was stripped from him that it was a weight off his shoulders.
Posted by mynamebowl
Houston
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:27 pm to
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Deuce has even said it himself when Jurgen gave him the armband that he never though of himself as a captain


Then who? You guys prefer Bradley over Deuce? Whether he liked it or not and regardless of who was wearing the armband, Dempsey was the best, most important player we had (outside of LD) and the clear on-field leader of this generation of players. Especially post-Landon and post-2010 World Cup when the guys like Boca and Cherundolo were no longer around. Dempsey was the head of the team these past 5-7 years, not Bradley. Also I think the whole “Dempsey” didn’t want to be captain narrative was a little overblown. I know he made some comments about it, but it seemed to me like it was more him being modest rather than genuinely putting it out there that he didn’t want to be the US captain. It doesn’t really matter anyway who wears the armband because anyone who has watched the US the past few years and saw the way he played for our country knows he was the heartbeat of those post 2010 US teams. I’ll miss the dude when he’s gone.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:32 pm to
He wasn't even a regular starter and was always a risk of getting a red card. Bradley was probably the right choice.
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 3:42 pm to
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full American


So the fact that he is a man....means he can't possibly be a full American...too much privilege

I'd imagine this about hits the mark:

Posted by Broski
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 5:04 pm to
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Also I think the whole “Dempsey” didn’t want to be captain narrative was a little overblown.


How so when the player himself said he didn't really want to be captain?
Posted by RollTide4Ever
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:00 pm to
A prodigy is Lionel Messi. Pulisic would just another player for Germany or France.
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 7:54 pm to
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Are people really saying this about Pulisic? I know that some people weren't too happy with all of the "Germericans" that Klinsmann brought in. But are there really people out there that don't consider Pulisic a "true" American?


I’m pretty sure this is at least part of the reason our resident Pulisic-hater hates him.
Posted by Broski
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Posted on 11/13/17 at 9:26 pm to
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Pulisic would just another player for Germany or France.


This is hella ignorant.
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