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re: Zelensky says Trump lives in ‘disinformation space’

Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:37 am to
Posted by jbdawgs03
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
12591 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:37 am to
You know the terms? If not how do you know the final deal ensures their domination?
Posted by Bourre
Da Parish
Member since Nov 2012
23231 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:38 am to
Then go pick up a gun and fight for Ukraine, keyboard warrior
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
14939 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:39 am to
He can eat a dick. I want my fricking money back including the 10% for the big guy they sent to Hunter and Joe Biden.
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
16975 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:40 am to
His relevancy is quickly coming to and end, he's another one that thinks he smarter than Trump, find out where all his money is before you kick his arse to the curb.
Posted by pwejr88
Red Stick
Member since Apr 2007
37615 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:42 am to
If Z is mad, we’re heading in the right direction.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
14112 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:43 am to
Zelensky IS disinformation space
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92973 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:45 am to
quote:

Please tell us your plan to end the war?



Moar money is the answer!
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19102 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 9:55 am to
It’s not disinformation. It’s intentional lying and on an international stage. USA is officially a rogue nation.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22969 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 10:10 am to
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It’s not disinformation. It’s intentional lying and on an international stage. USA is officially a rogue nation.


Yes, he does take liberties with the truth. I can say that as a five time voter. He has nobody to push back and in the wee hours of the morning he comes to Tiger Droppings for entertainment.

It will be interesting the degree to which the world pushes back against Trump. We could find ourselves diplomatically isolated at some point.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19754 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

Please tell us your plan to end the war?


I have no clue. I wish there was a way to punish both sides. I don't like the fact Russia can push there way to get what they want.

I see that many here support Russia and don't agree with me lol.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19754 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

Then go pick up a gun and fight for Ukraine, keyboard warrior


Why? I don't support them. Why don't you pick up a gun and support daddy Russia land grab to their hearts content.
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6307 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't like the fact Russia can push there way to get what they want.
The USA was pushing Ukraine to be adversarial towards Russia. I feel like Obama and Biden are responsible for instigating the war. How Russia responded to that threat is very similar to how the USA responded when Cuba allied with USSR in the 1960s.

quote:

I see that many here support Russia and don't agree with me lol.
I don't see many here supporting Russia. What I see on this board is disdain for a war propped up by the US government. We would not be having this discuss if Obama and Biden did not turn Russia's neighbor against them.

We won't even discuss the folks that got rich from instigating war with Russia. It's absolutely disgusting.
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
20807 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

the American people who always support us


I can factually state that not all Americans support you.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86405 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:11 pm to
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I hate the entire idea of supporting this thing but when we are negotiating with one side to ensure their dominaton and they aren't a friend... we are 1000% supporting them.



When has Ukraine been our friend?


Before the invasion they were the most corrupt country on earth full of neo nazis.

And that’s from our media.



This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
25362 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:11 pm to
Yea.. I’m sure all of the smart people that now surrounds Trump all think this as well
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 1:12 pm
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86405 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

. I don't like the fact Russia can push there way to get what they want.



What do they want?

According to our media, it’s all of Europe. So my argument is we aren’t giving them what they want.


Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1084 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

The USA was pushing Ukraine to be adversarial towards Russia.


quote:

We would not be having this discuss if Obama and Biden did not turn Russia's neighbor against them.


Ukraine is "hostile" because they attempt to break away from Russia post-Cold War, like the other East bloc states have done.... Czech Republic, Estonia, Cyprus, Latvia, Lithuania, Hungary, Malta, Poland, Slovakia and Slovenia, Romania, Bulgaria

Russia keeps breaking treaties negotiated between them and Ukraine... why wouldnt they be hostile

Notice the common denominator?

And for good reason, considering Russia has killed 100k Ukraine men.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
Monterey, CA
Member since Jul 2008
23942 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:20 pm to
Zelensky is so fricked. He’s a dead man walking.

We need to restore Yanukovych to power asap
Posted by Asharad
Tiamat
Member since Dec 2010
6307 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Notice the common denominator?

We have to disagree on this. But I ask again: Is your solution to press Ukraine to continue the war? Send more money to support more Ukrainian deaths? Or should we sue for peace and end martial law in Ukraine?

If you don't like the conditions of peace, WHAT IS YOUR SOLUTION?
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 1:35 pm
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2128 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I hate the entire idea of supporting this thing but when we are negotiating with one side to ensure their dominaton and they aren't a friend


We are not negotiating with one side. We are the other side. The continuation of the war happens only if we continue to fund Ukraine.

The options are we negotiate an end to the war now, we continue throwing money at Ukraine to fund a war they will still lose and cost thousands more lives and billions more dollars, or we stop funding them and Russia wins much quicker.

The only chance Ukraine has of winning is if the US and/or European nations provide their troops to fight the war. I doubt the US and Europe are willing to fight WW3 for Ukraine. Especially since many European nations still depend on Russia for their energy needs.
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