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re: Zelensky is pissed we slowed Starlink so he will stop bombing refineries

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Posted by sta4ever
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:38 am to
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China


And who else???
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:39 am to
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They literally prop up and keep all of our other major enemies afloat. Who do you think was giving Iran ballistic missile technology, and giving them routes to developing nuclear weapons?



What do you think we would do if something like NATO was constantly knocking on our doorsteps?

Well, we know how freaked out we were about it during the entire Cold War and especially in 1962
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43365 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:39 am to
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Ukraine is not an ally


They were when we fought Afghanistan and Iraq.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3985 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:39 am to
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Neither Ukraine nor Russia is an "ally." They're both the same level of "enemy" to us.

Lol @ same level. Didn't know Ukraine was supporting Iran, NK, and Cuba. Didn't know they supported Syria and Venezuela either.
Posted by stout
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:39 am to
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Why is Iran our concern at all? Why is South Korea our concern at all? shite, why is France our concern at all?



Now you get it. Congrats on becoming American First!
Posted by Wrex
Member since Oct 2026
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:40 am to
Don't tell that to the globalhomo backing Republicans
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:40 am to
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Neither Ukraine nor Russia is an "ally." They're both the same level of "enemy" to us.


You’re right. I completely forgot. Ukraine has kept the Islamic Iranian regime afloat for many years, helps to modernize and advance their military capabilities. Does the same for North Korea. And is also a major ally of Communist China…
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:41 am to
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Now you get it. Congrats on becoming American First!


Too bad our president doesn’t get it…
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:42 am to
frick that midget
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3985 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:43 am to
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frick that midget

You'll have to be more specific.
Z, Putin, or Rubio?
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:43 am to
It's realpolitik. That's how international politics has always worked. Trump wants to make a deal to benefit the US. If Zelensky won't play ball, he's going to get fricked over. From Zelensky's point of view, maybe it's worth it and maybe it's not.

You can't think the real world is a fairytale where one country is going to be nice because it's BFFs with some other country.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
71347 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:44 am to
Agreed. This is good Trump. Why does Z feel so entitled to our help?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:44 am to
Zylinski should have capitulated 2 weeks after it started!
Also, the US didn't slow down his residential Star Link speeds, the owner of Star Link did because Zylinski admitted to violating the terms of agreement/use.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
118528 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:44 am to
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quote:
frick that midget

You'll have to be more specific.
Z, Putin, or Rubio?


The OP was about Zelensky
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43365 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:44 am to
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1. Why is Russia our enemy? Since the Cold War ended, what has Russia done to remain an enemy?


They fought against us in Korea and helped our enemy in the Vietnam War.
They opposed our interests in the ME enabling Americans to die from terrorist bombings. They lined up st the Iron Curtain hoping to see America pull out of Europe so they could capture more of Europe.
Posted by DeBoar
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Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:44 am to
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sta4ever


Nasty Ukrainian bot
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185617 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:46 am to
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Also, the US didn't slow down his residential Star Link speeds, the owner of Star Link did because Zylinski admitted to violating the terms of agreement/use.








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Musk's Position: Musk stated on X that Starshield (the military-grade variant used by Ukraine) is controlled by the U.S. government, writing that "any limits on speed or usage" are ultimately decided by "the US military and ultimately POTUS". He maintained that Starlink is a civilian system restricted from offensive actions.
Posted by ATrillionaire
Houston
Member since Sep 2008
3985 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:46 am to
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Why does Z feel so entitled to our help?

Because a separate but equal branch of our gov't assured he'd have it.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
8213 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:46 am to
Unelected billionaires heavy influeincing meaningful foreign policy decisions should be a nonstarter for everyone.

Musk must be afaird of Putin.

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Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
18193 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:46 am to
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It's realpolitik. That's how international politics has always worked. Trump wants to make a deal to benefit the US. If Zelensky won't play ball, he's going to get fricked over. From Zelensky's point of view, maybe it's worth it and maybe it's not.


What Trump’s doing is not realpolitik. What Trump’s doing is how you make things worse and far more difficult in the future 101.
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