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re: Zelensky is pissed we slowed Starlink so he will stop bombing refineries

Posted on 10/19/26 at 10:38 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
101539 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 10:38 am to
Yes of course its me

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185617 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 10:43 am to
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The Ukraine war has no bearing on the US either way


I'd tell you to stop playing dumb, but we've all seen your posts over the years and know you aren't playing.

Do you think the Ukraine war has any bearing on the USA outside of energy prices?

Any war anywhere in the world can affect global energy prices. Now add the bombing of refineries to that.

We'd be concerned about refineries being blown up anywhere in the world if it were happening on a large scale, as it has in Russia

The only way to avoid worrying about that is to leave the global energy market, which would be far more disastrous.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185617 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 10:48 am to
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Yes of course its me




GreenChilliTiger's hero agrees with us about Ukraine and Russia FYI

After Putin annexed Crimea and moved 30,000 troops to the Ukrainian border, Obama refused to give Ukraine weapons to defend itself. And he refused for years.

Obama's speech in 2014 at the NATO summit said that Russia was a regional power that posed no threat to America, even after Putin invaded part of Ukraine. During that same speech Obama also said that Ukraine should work out its own future and that many Ukrainians in fact had allegiance to Russia. Obama said that countries regularly break international law and that it wasn't our problem.
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
71347 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 10:52 am to



Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185617 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 10:55 am to
Dang...look how based Obama was about Ukraine/Russia and America's involvement
Posted by tjv305
Member since May 2015
13084 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 10:57 am to
Well when someone is supplying you with the weapons and technology to fend off your enemy , you don’t go blow up the enemies fuel they are sending to the people keeping you afloat . Trump needs to walk away and let Ukraine fall .
Posted by grich31
Youngsville, La
Member since May 2008
2434 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:05 am to
Let's see Russia is communists, Ukraine is a Democracy as is the US, in normal time commies are the enemy of democracy but I guess maga no longer sees it that way because potus makes enemies of allies and allies of enemies. If u can't see that Ukraine winning or removing Russia from it's land is in US best interest as the leader of Democracy around the world then u need a history lesson. maga is now a friend to Russia?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
185617 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:08 am to
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Ukraine is a Democracy



When was their last election?

Posted by polaroid1984
Oklahoma City
Member since Nov 2020
289 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:12 am to
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Trump is helping an enemy of the US.


We've given Ukraine billions of dollars, plus free access to Starlink. In return, Ukraine used our generosity to engage in impermissible actions. I'd say Ukraine is acting much more like the enemy. Heaven forbid America acts in its best interest and doesn't defer to a de facto midget-dictator!
Posted by polaroid1984
Oklahoma City
Member since Nov 2020
289 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:15 am to
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If u can't see that Ukraine winning or removing Russia from it's land is in US best interest as the leader of Democracy around the world then u need a history lesson.


This is only in our best interest if you assume that a stronger NATO benefits the United States. Recent history indicates that NATO countries have been unreliable partners, and America's involvement in it only benefits the other members. Perhaps there is something that I am missing. Would you care to enlighten me if so?
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
28079 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:32 am to
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1. Why is Russia our enemy? Since the Cold War ended, what has Russia done to remain an enemy?



Russia allying with Iran, North Korea and China makes quite a telling axis.

Putin has done great harm to Russia and it will take generations to fix the mess he's made pursing his delusions of being the second coming of Peter the Great.

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
28079 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:34 am to
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Let's see Russia is communists,


Russia hasn't been communist since Yeltsin came to power in the collapse of the Soviet Union. It has evolved into a big organized crime syndicate with Putin as the capo.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14679 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:44 am to
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Come on Putin. Take Ukraine. The entire country. Break their backs and let's move on.


If they could, they already would have
Posted by polaroid1984
Oklahoma City
Member since Nov 2020
289 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:44 am to
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Russia allying with Iran, North Korea and China makes quite a telling axis.


In comparison to the motley crew of Western Europe that can't afford adequate militaries and allows rampant migration, which is directly contributing to their rapid decline? Europe is now weaker than ever, and it's solely their own fault. They haven't lifted a finger to help the US stop Iran from developing a nuclear weapon, which China gladly assisted them with. With "friends" like these, who needs enemies?

Western Europe has behaved antagonistically toward Russia. Whether or not this is understandable is another argument, but from Russia's perspective, it's not irrational to look for partners elsewhere.
Posted by BanachSpace
Member since Aug 2026
23 posts
Posted on 10/19/26 at 11:47 am to
Trump sold out to Putin. What a pathetic loser. And the spineless Republicans don't raise a whimper. Pa the tic.
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