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re: Zelensky criticizes NATO over its rejection of a no-fly zone.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:05 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:05 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Then we’ve learned nothing from history. How did appeasement work out with Hitler?
2022 and 1938 are so far apart in time and circumstances that there is nothing to learn from studying Hitler and appeasement.
Russia made it known to the USA that Russia had security and border concerns that it wanted to solve through policy and politics. The USA offered no peaceful solution. As such, Putin executed the "Clausewitzian Option" and settled these political questions using OTHER methods besides politics, i.e. armed conflict.
The USA is powerless to do anything besides continue buying Russian oil and whining.
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:07 pm to BugAC
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And secondly, it was the English that appeased Hitler, not the US.
The lesson applies to the Democratic West as a whole - when one of these types starts going imperial giving them an inch only emboldens them.
Had Russia been met at the Ukrainian border by a unified Western military response Putin would have his tail between his legs and this would all be over.
But we blinked just like he thought we would.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:08 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Came to post this. frick those cowards.
Now is the time for military intervention - we’re literally being invited into Ukraine unlike the Middle East.
You want to fight the Russians?
Then carry your arse over there and shoulder a rifle. Talk is cheap.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:11 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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The lesson applies to the Democratic West as a whole - when one of these types starts going imperial giving them an inch only emboldens them. Had Russia been met at the Ukrainian border by a unified Western military response Putin would have his tail between his legs and this would all be over. But we blinked just like he thought we would.
Again, we have 30 years of war in the Me that says this is a mistake. This is Europe’s problem. Let them handle it. I don’t give 2 fricks about the government of Ukraine and their corrupt asses. I feel for the people of Ukraine, but again, this is gutless Europe’s fight. We bled enough for the West.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:13 pm to BugAC
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we have 30 years of war in the Me that says this is a mistake
The big difference is that the Ukrainians are set up to govern themselves once we’re gone.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:17 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Then we’ve learned nothing from history. How did appeasement work out with Hitler?
Germany had the capability to take most of Europe. Russia does not.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:19 pm to Indefatigable
Should have joined NATO. But, we could help with refugees and health services.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 8:22 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:23 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Have you visited there?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:25 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Then we’ve learned nothing from history. How did appeasement work out with Hitler?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:28 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
This post was edited on 8/22/22 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:37 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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The lesson applies to the Democratic West as a whole - when one of these types starts going imperial giving them an inch only emboldens them.
Did you block out all the accusations of “American Imperialism” over the past few decades? Again, I don’t want any Ukrainians to die but American hands are not clean enough to be calling other countries imperialists. We’ve sent too many “military advisors” and funded too many coups to go toe to toe with a nuclear power when they do it to a neighbor.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:37 pm to JohnHager913
He’s criticizing us for not declaring World War III. If it happens, we’re fricked.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:39 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Came to post this. frick those cowards.
Do you morons really want WWIII? Because that’s what the No Fly Zone would result and is basically an open declaration of war against Russia.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 8:42 pm
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:39 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Then we’ve learned nothing from history. How did appeasement work out with Hitler?
Hitler didn’t have nukes, and if he did, he would have launched them all in his Berlin bunker at the end of the war.
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:52 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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He had a free ride from Hiden and he asked for ammo instead.
Just stop and think about how retarded you sound for repeating this propaganda. Step away for awhile
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:54 pm to OMLandshark
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He’s criticizing us for not declaring World War III. If it happens, we’re fricked.
On one hand, he and Ukraine can go screw themselves, the ungrateful brats
On the other, we'd all be doing the same thing, using whatever ploys we had available to get help for your country on the brink of extinction
Posted on 3/4/22 at 8:57 pm to Indefatigable
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They’re fricked and they’ve known it from day 1
I guess he thought Pedo Joe would bail him out because of all the money he washed for him. It sucks that the amount of civilians being killed means nothing to them
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:03 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Then we’ve learned nothing from history. How did appeasement work out with Hitler?
How did nukes work out for Japan?
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:04 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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Came to post this. frick those cowards. Now is the time for military intervention - we’re literally being invited into Ukraine unlike the Middle East.
frick you
No way you would pick up a gun and go over there
Coward
Posted on 3/4/22 at 9:06 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
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We learned that letting them just take a *little* territory doesn’t pacify despots.
Yea and if he takes another country it will be a nato country and we are at war anyway.
It’s not like we are giving him time to strengthen like Hitler. The longer his pathetic economy goes with these sanctions and he takes body blows in Ukraine the better.
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