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re: Zelensky agrees to Trump’s mineral deal

Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:38 pm to
Yea but couldv'e kept those without even having a deal. Just seems like there's got to be more we are giving them for Zelensky to do a complete turn around from being completely against the deal to signing it.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:39 pm to
He trusted euros to do something. All they did was talk something.
US offered something real.
My guess.
Posted by aero1126
Member since Oct 2016
1159 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:41 pm to
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Yea but couldv'e kept those without even having a deal. Just seems like there's got to be more we are giving them for Zelensky to do a complete turn around from being completely against the deal to signing it.


The past deal had them paying us $500 Billion, the new deal has them putting money in a fund that gets invested back into Ukraine.

Basically, the new deal as of now seems to only benefit them, in which case there’s no reason not to sign.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:42 pm to
Posted by LARancher1991
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
2245 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:44 pm to
Oh Ok yea I see that now. Misread it.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34255 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:51 pm to
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aero1126

I'm not sure you grasp what the term 50% means
quote:

The Government of the United States of America intends to provide a long-term financial commitment to the development of a stable and economically prosperous Ukraine," the draft says.

* It adds that the fund will be designed "so as to invest in projects in Ukraine and attract investments to increase development," including in areas like mining and ports.
* But it also suggests the U.S. will recoup some of its expenditures related to "defending, reconstructing, and returning Ukraine" to its pre-war GDP.
* Ukranian spokesperson said that they can attract American investors to develop their natural resources, it will be highly beneficial for the country's economy. We will get technologies that our mining industry lacks so much, We will get capital. That means more jobs, tax payments. We'll receive revenue from the development of mineral deposits."

So 50% goes into this fund, that then is used to pay US companies, and the Corp of Engineers, etc. to rebuild Ukraine. For many years to come
Posted by BamaMamaof2
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2019
2669 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Trump should scream at him until he leaves shaking


That made me think, I wonder how Trump gets mad?

Does he scream or just look at you with those eyes that your Mom and Dad gave you as a kid and you know you are up the creek without a paddle!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
65800 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:53 pm to
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Possibly, I guess, but at a certain point Ukraine has no money left to invest in the development of those resources. Who foots the bill then?


That depends. Are we electing more Joe Bidens?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 1:59 pm to
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* Ukranian spokesperson said that they can attract American investors to develop their natural resources, it will be highly beneficial for the country's economy. We will get technologies that our mining industry lacks so much, We will get capital. That means more jobs, tax payments. We'll receive revenue from the development of mineral deposits."

So 50% goes into this fund, that then is used to pay US companies, and the Corp of Engineers, etc. to rebuild Ukraine. For many years to come

Well, that should pretty much guarantee their security.
This post was edited on 2/25/25 at 2:03 pm
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24421 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:02 pm to
Trump needs to pull out a piano for him to sign it on
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
Member since Nov 2024
6265 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:17 pm to
Great for the SWF. Good deal for Ukraine as well, they get security, guaranteed US investment in their rebuild, and Trumps favor in his negation with Russia


They should now go demand Germany pay up for decades of under spending on defense. If we do this to every leech, we could have a surplus
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24005 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:20 pm to
For you business types, go in there and start prospecting and mining.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:28 pm to
As part of the deal, it's Kiev again, right?



Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
37988 posts
Posted on 2/25/25 at 2:30 pm to
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Zelensky agrees to Trump’s mineral deal


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