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re: You guys that are taking ivermectin as a precaution..
Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:51 pm to Powerman
Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:51 pm to Powerman
quote:
Powerman
Why do you or anyone else give a shite what someone else does with their own body?
You an expert? Where'd you go to med school?
It doesn't affect you. You guys seem awfully concerned about a bunch of people you seem to look down upon intellectually. What's wrong with a potential treatment that has been proven to be safe over decades of use?
Question the efficacy, that's legitimate. From what I've seen, it seems to work. Especially if taken prophylactically and then upped for a short period if exposed or symptomatic. Now I encourage zinc, vitamin C, D3, quercitin, and reduction in weight and other risk factors first and foremost. If they ask me if I can tell them 100% that it works, my answer is no. I don't promote it, but I don't refuse it. It's discussed as an option and up to them.
I'd rather err on the side of given a benign medicine under my guidance and monitoring that turns out not to do shite, than to withhold it and it turn out to be an effective tool in the treatment and prevention. Tell me where I'm wrong.
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Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:53 pm to HammerJackFlash
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That would be Pfizer, dumbass. Money is why they’re suppressing it.
It's generic. Anyone can produce it, but they have all jacked up the price since it started being promoted and used for COVID. They ain't refusing to sell it.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:55 pm to auggie
quote:why are people dosing for a fake virus?
how often are you dosing?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:57 pm to TSLG
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No, it hasn't been approved by the fda for treating covid, and I'd be ok if that was the position being pushed.
Neither have the monoclonal antibodies.
Remdesivir is and don't do shite. May increase mortality. At best, not better than placebo. At worse, caused pulmonary edema and increased mortality. I would refuse it if hospitalized.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 12:59 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:
And this is where the antivaxxer fricktards prove themselves to be full of shite. They refuse the vaccine allegedly because it isn't FDA approved, then take a drug that isn't either.
What you people fail to understand is you're putting people between a rock and a hard place, and they are just throwing reasons against the wall.
I'd guess a lot of their reasons is "I don't want to let you punk fricks force me to put something in my body until I feel comfortable about your wishy washy bullshite over the last 18 months." However, that's not a socially acceptable response in these times, so they shotgun reasons against the wall.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:00 pm to supatigah
quote:
there are doctors on this site that have posted about prescribing ivermectin and why
How many advise AGAINST the vaccine?
We should try Ivermectin, but it's still unproven and unlikely to be the silver bullet people are looking for.
The people here cherry picking research papers they are ill-equipped to even dissect (study design, biases, sampling, power, etc.) would quickly ignore the litany of papers out there documenting the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. Not THOSE papers.
This board is filled with pseudointellectuals.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:02 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:
And this is where the antivaxxer fricktards prove themselves to be full of shite. They refuse the vaccine allegedly because it isn't FDA approved, then take a drug that isn't either.
New vaccine. ZERO long term data on safety. Definitely dangerous side effects that are quite common.
Ivermectin. Been around for decades. Safety is irrefutable . Little to no side effects if dosed appropriately. Has been taken hundreds of millions of times over a long time period.
One is not like the other. There are many vaxxed people taking it. It's not an either/or argument.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:04 pm to Norbert
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How many advise AGAINST the vaccine?
I don't advise it for young, healthy people. I mean healthy. Just because you never go to the doctor and don't take any medicines doesn't mean you're healthy. It's not a one size fits all answer. It gets easier as pt's get older and sicker or younger and healthier.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:07 pm to Powerman
quote:Are you suggesting the Ivermectin molecule did not deserve the award, or that Obama did?
Obama won a Nobel peace prize early in his first term and then bombed Syria into dust
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:13 pm to SuperSaint
quote:
why are people dosing for a fake virus?
The chyna flu isn't fake, but the dangerousness has been exaggerated to implement an agenda.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:15 pm to sta4ever
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It’s just so ironic that y’all are so willing to take this shite, without hardly any kind of research
31 random controlled trials for ivermectin. 73 peer reviewed published studies, 113 overall as of today.
30+ years of use in humans with one of the least adverse reaction index of any drug ever given to humans. Who exactly is being hypocritical?
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:16 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:
young, healthy people
quote:
It's not a one size fits all answer
I realize these caveats.
There is room for nuance.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:16 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:Tamoxifen was developed to treat Breast Cancer.
Yeah. For treatment of parasites.
Now they use it to inhibit manic phase of bipolar disorder.
The bipolar person isn't taking titty pills, he is taking bipolar medicine.
Aspirin was developed as pain medicine. Turns out it can help prevent heart attacks.
You see, sometimes we find out that drugs we develop for one thing, also offer benefits to another.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:19 pm to sta4ever
quote:
without hardly any kind of research with it and Covid
A medication used on millions upon millions for almost 4 decades
vs
The first ever treatment of its kind with no long term testing
You decide
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:22 pm to SmackoverHawg
quote:
Why do you or anyone else give a shite what someone else does with their own body?
He's an idiot.
I am getting tired of the Vaxx Cult.
They need a beatdown.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:22 pm to Norbert
quote:No, dammit
There is room for nuance.
I need to entrench myself in a polarized position and refuse any position that differs in any way!!!!!
---Board lefties like Powerman and righties like the most of the rest of you.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:24 pm to Powerman
quote:
Obama won a Nobel peace prize early in his first term and then bombed Syria into dust
Yes, Obama won a popularity contest. Ivermectin scientists won it for actual scientific discovery and achievement, not political ideology.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:49 pm to Norbert
quote:
I realize these caveats.
There is room for nuance.
quote:
Norbert
Was just clarifying my personal stance. Many assume by some of my comments that I'm anti-vax.
I agree with the rest of your post that we should try it. I also agree that everyone cherry picks studies that support their viewpoint.
Posted on 8/28/21 at 1:59 pm to auggie
quote:
You guys that are taking ivermectin as a precaution..
I'll say this, this taken for a precaution is probably a bad idea.
If you want to take precaution, it's time to talk health. Go workout. Get good quality vitamins. Make sure you get a multivitamin, a b multi, a mineral multi, a D+K, a selenium multi, a C vitamin, and an omega 3. Limit foods that have high levels of omega 6, so like all seed oils, if you need fried food, fry it in lard or coconut oil. Then get some nicotine. Nicotine kills the immune cells that process the viral load of S1. For some reason the immune cells that deal with the S1 does not dispose of the S1 like it should and keeps living for up to 15 months or something, but nicotine kills those reducing your viral load. How much nicotine do you need, IDK. I would just chew a piece of gum once a day or something, I have no idea how much nicotine is or isn't needed. The plus side is nicotine is a "wonder drug."
If you actually get sick ivermectin may help. But if you do this stuff you probably* won't get sick.
This post was edited on 8/28/21 at 2:01 pm
Posted on 8/28/21 at 2:15 pm to TSLG
quote:They have a fully developed proagandist mechanism consisting of over 95% of national media.
I think it is a little silly that the mainstream has demonized this drug. It makes me wonder why.
Communists have been putting in the work... Democrats hate the USA.. all works out
til they get baseball bats to the face
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