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re: Wouldn’t Hillary’s payments to Fusion GPS also violate campaign finance law?

Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:00 pm to
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:00 pm to
If she used campaign funds it could be. Don’t k ow if she did. It does prove she colluded with Russia, though.
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Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:27 pm to
Lol no it doesn’t
Posted by BBONDS25
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:28 pm to
We’ll take your word for it.
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Posted by FT
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:40 pm to
About time!
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 7:56 pm to
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Wouldn’t Hillary’s payments to Fusion GPS also violate campaign finance law?


Nah

quote:

How are Hillary’s payments to Fusion GPS any different?


Pretty sure the payments to Perkins Coie were reported. Fusion GPS was a sub of Perkins Coie. Opposition research is a pretty standard campaign expense.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:21 pm to
99% of liberals have never even heard of the Steele dossier. The other 1% think it's a made up conspiracy by the meanie white rayciss republicans.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:09 pm to
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ft


Posted by RidiculousHype
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:10 pm to
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Pretty sure the payments to Perkins Coie were reported. Fusion GPS was a sub of Perkins Coie. Opposition research is a pretty standard campaign expense.


Got it. So it was reported, but as “legal expenses”. I googled around on this point and found this from The Hill:

quote:

The Clinton campaign and the DNC did not comply with their legal obligation to disclose their payments to Fusion for opposition research. Instead, they concealed the fact that any payments were made to Fusion at all. Rather than disclosing the spending, the campaign and the DNC told the FEC the money had gone to their law firm, and the Clinton campaign said that it had made the payments for "legal services."

That was not true. The money was not for "legal services," and to describe it as having been paid to the firm is highly misleading. The firm was a conduit between Fusion and the Clinton campaign and DNC. In other words, money that went to the firm was ultimately paid to Fusion. And Fusion provided no legal services to anyone.


So is it unlawful to lie on an FEC filing or not?
Posted by ever43
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 2:39 am to
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Isn't opposition research usually done through law firms?


No, it’s done through partisan firms/individuals. Depending on the type of race, budget, and background of the target(s) they can do very deep dives. Firm I use has forensic accountants, former FBI, etc and contacts in other countries if things lead there. The good firms will give the campaign a book to source from. Pretty much any negative ad you see is a result of opposition research. Last one I ordered was about 200 pages of info and cost around 50k. Every campaign does it and is reported as a campaign expenditure.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 5:26 am to
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Got it. So it was reported, but as “legal expenses”. I googled around on this point and found this from The Hill: quote:The Clinton campaign and the DNC did not comply with their legal obligation to disclose their payments to Fusion for opposition research. Instead, they concealed the fact that any payments were made to Fusion at all. Rather than disclosing the spending, the campaign and the DNC told the FEC the money had gone to their law firm, and the Clinton campaign said that it had made the payments for "legal services." That was not true. The money was not for "legal services," and to describe it as having been paid to the firm is highly misleading. The firm was a conduit between Fusion and the Clinton campaign and DNC. In other words, money that went to the firm was ultimately paid to Fusion. And Fusion provided no legal services to anyone. So is it unlawful to lie on an FEC filing or not?
Lol you didn't really expect Rexcatur to reply did you?
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 5:45 am to
As was established in the hrc email investigation, lying about does not create intent....sarcasm, for the people not fully awake yet.

At some point, with all of the sh!t the dems throw against the wall to take down Trump, they will undoubtedly find something that hrc has done in he past.

This is all such an obvious joke.
Posted by SquirrelyBama
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Posted on 12/13/18 at 8:05 am to
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