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re: Would you vote for an open atheist for national political office?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:55 pm to Da Blitz
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:55 pm to Da Blitz
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Religion has nothing to do with politics. Any one who wouldn't vote for an athiest is prejudiced.
Sure worked like a charm in the Soviet system.
I guess you can say I am prejudiced to thoses who say for certain "there is no God cause I know there is not".
Arrogant and the sign of a non questioning mind and heart. Thats why I would not vote for a person who held that view. Seems closed minded to me.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 4:59 pm
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:56 pm to Revelator
Is the person the best person for the job?
Their religion really shouldn't play any part in it.
Their religion really shouldn't play any part in it.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 4:56 pm to skrayper
Excellent post
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:00 pm to Da Blitz
I could
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:02 pm to skrayper
quote:Not necessarily true. A person's religion is typically a very important part of who they are, if they are "practicing", that is. In such cases, their religious convictions can be a large influence on their actions and behaviors.
Their religion really shouldn't play any part in it.
A pro-life Christian may take a different approach to pushing through challenges to Roe V Wade compared to someone who doesn't have a conviction on the subject (or who believes that pro-choice is right for the country).
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:03 pm to goatmilker
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Sure worked like a charm in the Soviet system.
LOL at those who blame that on atheism
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:07 pm to Roger Klarvin
Many things caused the fall. Did not subscribe that as the sole reason so no reason to LOL.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:07 pm to goatmilker
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Arrogant and the sign of a non questioning mind and heart.
Most atheists don't claim certainty
I would argue your characterization is far more common among the religious who know for certain not only God exists but their specific idea of God. Furthermore, they frequently blindly accept nonsensical and impossible stories because of that certainty.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:10 pm to Roger Klarvin
Websters
I don't believe this so what you got to back this up?
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Definition of atheist : one who believes that there is no deity
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Most atheists don't claim certainty
I don't believe this so what you got to back this up?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:13 pm to goatmilker
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I don't believe this so what you got to back this up?
I'd assume just the general logic behind the atheist position. It has nothing to do with "belief." It is more apt to say that there is a sufficient lack of evidence to tip me over into the "belief" in a higher power, and so I remain in the default position of having a world view with no higher power.
I make no claim that my view is absolutely correct. And, further, I'd willingly change my opinion if presented with sufficient evidence.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:19 pm to goatmilker
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I don't believe this so what you got to back this up?
Atheist answers the question "Do you believe in god", agnostic answers the question "Does god exist".
Most atheists are technically agnostic atheists, meaning they do not believe in god based on all the evidence available but cannot say for certain one doesn't exist.
It's inherently impossible to disprove a being which supposedly exists outside of the physical universe. All that can be disproven are some specific claims made by various religions involving the physical universe.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:19 pm to Strophie
Can I shorten all that.
Atheist don't believe in God.
Agnostics are skeptical.
Not complicated.
Why can't yall own it
This is the very definition of a agnostic not a atheist. Show me something that disproves this not your twisting of definitions. I'm open to hear it.
Most atheist are agnostic atheist?
Like most murderers are pro life?
Atheist don't believe in God.
Agnostics are skeptical.
Not complicated.
Why can't yall own it
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but cannot say for certain one doesn't exist.
This is the very definition of a agnostic not a atheist. Show me something that disproves this not your twisting of definitions. I'm open to hear it.
Most atheist are agnostic atheist?
Like most murderers are pro life?
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:21 pm to Strophie
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I'd assume just the general logic behind the atheist position. It has nothing to do with "belief." It is more apt to say that there is a sufficient lack of evidence to tip me over into the "belief" in a higher power, and so I remain in the default position of having a world view with no higher power.
I make no claim that my view is absolutely correct. And, further, I'd willingly change my opinion if presented with sufficient evidence.
Agreed
Agnostic atheism is the default position, one must be taught religion. Nobody would ever arrive naturally at specific religious dogma.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:22 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:You might say it takes some sort of revelation in order to come by it.
Nobody would ever arrive naturally at specific religious dogma.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:24 pm to goatmilker
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Why can't yall own it
What are we supposed to own?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:24 pm to Roger Klarvin
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one must be taught religion.
The American indian was not taught religion yet believe in a spirit, a great father of the cosmos.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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What are we supposed to own?
Definitions.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:25 pm to goatmilker
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The American indian was not taught religion yet believe in a spirit, a great father of the cosmos.
So you believe that individual Native Americans are born with the innate belief in the spirit and the great father cosmos? As he (or it?) is particularly described in their oral traditions?
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 5:26 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:26 pm to goatmilker
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Atheists don't believe in God
Agnostics are skeptical
They are not mutually exclusive terms, and in fact usually occur together.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 5:26 pm to goatmilker
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The American indian was not taught religion yet believe in a spirit, a great father of the cosmos.
They weren't born believing that.
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